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Hi Harry, I myself am struggling with worldly business, and have come to appreciate the ideas of some teachers:

between surviving practices and transcendence practices you need to master the surviving ones first.

Neither you, nor me would know this for a fact, until we decided to plunge in, each in his own path, and go all the way.

Good luck Harry

 

L1

 

PS: Oh, the bet stays, i think: last one building an immortal dantien is a rotten egg! :lol:

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Thank you Harry for your answer. I can definitely relate to you not having enough time. It took me a few years of struggling to extend the practice time from 1 hour/day to 4+ hours/day at the expanse of sacrificing personal life, entertainment, hobbies, etc. One thing is for sure - you won't find freedom if you work for someone else. Or I like what a really cool taobum Qui-Dao said: "What's the point if you train hard, but then go to work for someone and give your power away. It's absurd and impossible to be free and to have a master (boss) telling you what to do all day long".

So my new goal is now to be free from my present job...

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Thank you Harry for your answer. I can definitely relate to you not having enough time. It took me a few years of struggling to extend the practice time from 1 hour/day to 4+ hours/day at the expanse of sacrificing personal life, entertainment, hobbies, etc. One thing is for sure - you won't find freedom if you work for someone else. Or I like what a really cool taobum Qui-Dao said: "What's the point if you train hard, but then go to work for someone and give your power away. It's absurd and impossible to be free and to have a master (boss) telling you what to do all day long".

So my new goal is now to be free from my present job...

 

So no boss and then you have to listen to your clients :)

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So no boss and then you have to listen to your clients :)

I'm planning my clients will be listening to me :)

Did we sidetracked this thread? Oh-oh...

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I'm planning my clients will be listening to me :)

Did we sidetracked this thread? Oh-oh...

 

We may have.

It doesn't always work that way.

I hope it does for you.

Nice meeting you saturday

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Thankx guys for the reflections :)

 

So today I set the first step of bringing a private practice of acupuncture a life.

Looked for a room to use and by now it looks like I will be using one in the practice

of two psychotherapists. I don't yet really know what to expect and how to have

people have interest in me... but if I am right this once again is something

belonging into the realms of Heaven's Will... and maybe some good old luck.

 

So. I intend to mainly focus on raising money for years to come. I have many

trainings ahead in acupuncture and alternative psychotherapy. That is binding a

lot of energy and time. Hope to find a practice I manage to do on a regular base

that helps me with health and energy issues... and maybe I get some more clarity

of what it is all about. Can it really be that only so few know how to get back to

the Source? Passing the wheels of Karma and reincarnation? I wonder...

 

Anybody familiar with Ken Wilber. I am currently reading his book on Integral Spirituality.

I feel quite secure to say that giving up once private life, social acitivites etc. likely

is not part of Integral Spirituality. Our personalities tend to lack in certain areas if we

do not manage to live that part well. I wonder if excluding this in favor of "just practice"

is not just another trap in becoming whole, integrated and enlightened beings...

 

I don't want to doubt your approaches guys. It just is something I wonder about for myself...

 

Glad to be able to share

 

Thankx for listening

 

:)

 

Harry

 

Thankx guys for the reflections :)

 

So today I set the first step of bringing a private practice of acupuncture a life.

Looked for a room to use and by now it looks like I will be using one in the practice

of two psychotherapists. I don't yet really know what to expect and how to have

people have interest in me... but if I am right this once again is something

belonging into the realms of Heaven's Will... and maybe some good old luck.

 

So. I intend to mainly focus on raising money for years to come. I have many

trainings ahead in acupuncture and alternative psychotherapy. That is binding a

lot of energy and time. Hope to find a practice I manage to do on a regular base

that helps me with health and energy issues... and maybe I get some more clarity

of what it is all about. Can it really be that only so few know how to get back to

the Source? Passing the wheels of Karma and reincarnation? I wonder...

 

Anybody familiar with Ken Wilber. I am currently reading his book on Integral Spirituality.

I feel quite secure to say that giving up once private life, social acitivites etc. likely

is not part of Integral Spirituality. Our personalities tend to lack in certain areas if we

do not manage to live that part well. I wonder if excluding this in favor of "just practice"

is not just another trap in becoming whole, integrated and enlightened beings...

 

I don't want to doubt your approaches guys. It just is something I wonder about for myself...

 

Glad to be able to share

 

Thankx for listening

 

:)

 

Harry

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HugoOlivaresMila

post Yesterday, 06:52 AM

 

 

 

Good Day now we can read about Celestial Enlightened Immortal Wang Liping In Wikipedia:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoist_Wang_Liping

 

It seems they forget to tell that Immortal Wang Liping have also this name: Linglingzi!

 

I wonder wich name do students call him, when is each of the 3 names use?

 

Have you more or any comments or information or questions about the information please let us know!

 

Thanks

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Yikes, still looking up airfares, and it's getting close to crunch time here for final decision...wish I had more time to plan for this.

 

Kind of been distracted lately by the financial upheavals on Wall St. and figuring out how to best preserve my assets.

 

In the meantime, I have a few more questions, though:

 

1) Does Wang Liping give any group shaktipat/transmission/darshan? IOW, will we receive any type of energetic activation in his presence? According to Sean Denty, it seems like this was the case - at least in smaller group settings? What about a large seminar class, though?

2) What type of dedication does the training entail? Some rumors have it that they include:
4 months of sexual abstinence

4 hours a day of meditation and other exercises, plus some additional weekly requirements

minimum requirement after 2 year's practice is to be able to sit in full lotus for one hour without moving or having a single thought

Right now, I'm internally debating on whether I should just damn the torpedos and go to this seminar, or possibly try for Shen Laoshi's class in December, instead?

 

If WLP does give some energetic activation/transmission and will have nightly sessions with foreign students with sucky (or no) Chinese, then I may just push ahead and try for this class.

 

If not, then I may try for Shen Laoshi's class...

 

Of course, the other unrelated variable right now is our f'n economy, which is in such a critical unstable stage right now. So, next month is not exactly the best time to be letting go of the reins on my life savings for 2 weeks...when big, sudden changes could be happening. Fawk I dunno, decisions, DECISIONS!!! :huh:

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HugoOlivaresMila

post Yesterday, 06:52 AM

 

Thanks

 

THANKS

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In tread it is mentioned that Wang say he is to live 150 years.Then claim that he is Shen or Tian Xian(Immortal).Strange?

 

One another strange occasion is that again some people like David Verdesi is mentioned to have contraversial and not clear role,with implication that it is all about huge sum of dollars.

 

How one Xian find himself in such position?

 

To me it is not clear if he teach Nei Gong or Nei Dan(Jindan Dao),because here and in book title it mention Nei Gong.

 

Ormus

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