So there was a recent article in Science News that teeth can heal themselves through the interaction between the inner tooth bud and the calcium in the saliva. Scientists are experimenting with calcium fortified toothpastes for this reason.

So that's where science is on the subject. On the vitamin d link on Platos blog, they go into this in detail and claim that it is normal for teeth to be able to regenerate themselves assuming there's enough calcium in the saliva. there has to be enough calcium and vitamin d in the diet/sunlight exposure to get the levels up. The article believes that most people are walking around with half to a third as much calcium in their saliva as needed due to large scale vitamin d deficiency.

I have now replaced my toothpaste with salt for many moons and am happy with it. The theory there is that toothpaste creates a slimey coat over the teeth that deprives them of the self healing effect.

I lost a filling awhile back and it seems to be healing itself through the salt. Of course, it might just be that the hole is getting smoothed down through wear.

Not that tooth heal is a big deal, but vitamin d deficiencies also lower serotonin and that's a huge deal!! So get your sun and eat those eggs or take some oil supplements!

-Yoda

I think I read something about coQ10 helping teeth heal, will have to look it up though.

Or maybe it was cod liver oil. Can't keep anything straight anymore.

I heard cod liver oil helps due to the vit d.

So brushing with salt water? Sea salt? That works well? Helps bad breath? Keep em white? I been using tea tree oil toothpaste, a name brank called Jason, its not bad, organic.

Those be awesome quotes.

Matter of fact I was thinking about tooth regeneration a lot lately and thinking about posting about it.

In cosmic healing two Dirk and Chia write how when taoists would vanish in thin air they would only leave behind HAIR, TEETH and NAILS. I highly recommend meditating on that one, dont forget the eyelashes! I just so happen to have a "love line" or a line of hair that descends my conception vessel from my chest, its funny looking. I was reading about how Pang Gu's hair...

"After the eighteen thousand years had elapsed, PanGu was laid to rest. His breath became the wind; his voice the thunder; left eye the sun and right eye the moon; his body became the mountains and extremes of the world; his blood formed rivers; his muscles the fertile lands; his facial hair the stars and milky way; his fur the bushes and forests; his bones the valuable minerals; his bone marrows sacred diamonds; his sweat fell as rain; and the little creatures on his body carried by the wind became human beings all over the world.""

Anyways, I been studying some Buddhist art from a 2005 calender that my friends mom had, it is really amazing to see the alchemical thing sin this stuff...very cool indeed, bring me to nirvana, each one, when studied for about 5 minutes.

On a couple of them it shows the deities with fangs. So anyways, later when I was meditating on my teeth/hair/nails trinity I felt the energy go more into my (what do you call those?) fang-like teeth, those 4 sharper ones...it feels very good. I thought to myself, well, if Im going to be a vampire I might as well grow some horns, and started working on that too.

I just use sea salt. An aquired taste, but I like it. The pioneers used salt to brush their teeth back in the day too. About hair, have you tried Yudelove's hair breathing? Just breath in through any and all hairs on the body.

I looked on the store shelves and sure enough, Colgate just came out with a new calcium fortified toothpaste.

Keep in mind--it's all about getting enough calcium and vitamin d, not about what you brush with.

recently I've been wondering about wisdom teeth... mine havent come through (yet?) but I sometimes get pains where they're meant to come out. Was wondering if there is any energetic significance to wisdom teeth, I know that each tooth corresponds with a meridian, but have no idea what meridian the wisdom teeth correspond to (and I've heard wisdom teeth come out differently in different people). why are they called wisdom teeth in first place? What are the consequences of having your wisdom teeth removed?

Wisdom teeth come in later in life.. I think that's the only significance to the name. Weston Price, a dentist in the 1930's, did extensive research on the jaw structures of native people eating their native diets free of all modern foods. He found that their mouths had plenty of room for wisdom teeth to come in without structural problems.

Unfortunately, some of us don't have jaw structures that can accommodate all the teeth, so sometimes they do need to be removed. When that's necessary, a good biological dentist can do it properly, or refer to an oral surgeon who uses methods based on biological dentistry.

The book Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price has loads of amazing photos of native people with healthy jaw structures and gorgeous teeth. No dentists, gorgeous teeth .

BTW, I think salt can be too abrasive for brushing with, but it's great to rinse with. For brushing, I love Tooth Soap, in the liquid form.

Dr. Wolfe has a tooth chart online showing the meridians that run through the teeth. In general, energetically, teeth are related to bone.

-Karen

i use an ayurvedic formulation called "gum care" .... rub on my gums... it generates copious amounts of saliva.... gargle, spit then brush with my own saliva.

tooth regeneration huh?

do you reckon i could regenerate my pulled out tooth.....?
(i have one of my front teeth missing).

now THAT would be an achievement!

maybe i should sit in the sun for 6 hours a day and eat a jar of tahini every day?
hahahaha.

I believe it's possible to regenerate teeth, but I've not heard of any stories.

neimand, I would like to know more about this, saliva is the elixir!

gum care ingredients:

common alum, black pepper, gum benzoin, sea salt, oregano seeds, cloves, acacia catechu, phyllanthus emblica, turmeric powder and neem.

i just rub it on my gums then loads of salive comes ou. unfortunately its not good to swallow this stuff so i gargle with the saliva, herb mixture, swish it around my mouth then spit. then i brush my teeth with the saliva which keeps coming for a few minutes.

sounds intense! Is it enjoyable?

it is intense.

and it's reasonably enjoyable.... provided you don't swallow any!
if i accidentally swallow some i have this bad taste in my throat for hours.

its kind of numbing but stimulating at the same time.

Karen,
Can you tell me more about tooth soap? I looked up the ingredients to try to make my own and all it said was saponified coconut, palm and olive oils and essential oil. I know Thieves makes really good toothpaste with •
Thymol, methyl salycilate, menthol and eucalyptol (from essential oils), clove oil, Patented liposome complex,
Xylitol, Papain, Special, nonabrasive, more-than-850-mesh calcium, Nano-particle zinc oxide and Zinc citrate... http://www.secretofthieves.com/thieves-toothpaste.htm

The problem with both of these is how expensive they are and I want to make my own!!
Any recipes?

Hey Lozen.

I know what you mean. I've been using the Tooth Soap sparingly and thinking up what to do when the bottle runs out! I talked with the tooth soap people about making a similar formula, and they implied that there's nothing magical about their formulation, and regular old soap could be used. I just find it handy to use the liquid Tooth soap in the squirt bottle, but hey, if you have some basic vegetable oil-based soap with no additives, I think that would be fine. Maybe even Dr Bronner's. Or if you feel like making soap yourself.. I never had the desire to mess around with it.

I think I'd rather start with an unscented olive oil bar soap, and just add some essential oils to it.

Re. the Thieves toothpaste, it looks mostly good, but I have no idea what the "patented liposome complex" is. Might be okay, but who knows.

Karen

Ingredients:
Sodium Monofluorophosphate 0.76% w/w (1000 ppm F), Sodium Fluoride BP 0.1% w/w (450 ppm F), Dicalcium Phosphate Dihydrate, Glycerine, Sorbitol, Cellulose Gum, PEG 12, Sodium Lauryl Sulphate, Sodium Saccharin, Tetrasodium Pyrophosphate, Flavour, Water.

All conventional pastes have fluoride in then. And what is Dicalcium Phosphate Dihydrate anyway? Is it some by-product of an agricultural pesticide plant? Colgate would be the last brand I would buy. You are right about brushing though.

Well my Ayurvedic toothpaste didn't cut it and I finally picked up some of this Tooth Soap stuff. It is liquid and foams up in your mouth! It tastes like oil with essential oils because that's what it is. My teeth are buzzing and feel clean! They look yellow though. And I don't want to pay for tooth whitener they sell, or for the booklet for that matter. Hey Karen, what are the secrets in the booklet?

I found this Oramd stuff for my dad who's got receding gums... it's also mainly essential oils, but has some very devoted followers!

Lozen, I remember a friend of mine got a tooth whitening package off ebay, it included a blue-light torch... he loved it, and it was very cheap...

I think I read something about coQ10 helping teeth heal, will have to look it up though.
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Don't know about it healing teeth but coQ10 helps regenerate gums. Apparently coQ10 is important for the heart and the gums and if the heart hasn't got enough it leeches it out of the gums. Gums return to normal really fast with coQ10.

"Don't know about it healing teeth but coQ10 helps regenerate gums. Apparently coQ10 is important for the heart and the gums and if the heart hasn't got enough it leeches it out of the gums. Gums return to normal really fast with coQ10."

Callan
CoQ10, also known as Ubiquinone because it is present everywhere on a cellular level is important to cardiovascular health.
Bad gums are indicative of low coq10 levels and therefore bad gums are predictive of potential cardiovascular trouble because Coq10 is Essential to cardiovascular health.
I don't think it is accurate to say that the heart Leeches Coq10 from the gums.

another important point and one which I preach whenever I have the oppurtunity, please follow my logic.

1. Co Q 10 is ubiquitous in the body and essential to cardiovascular health among other things.
2. High cholesterol is purported to be indicative of cardiovascular risk.
3. In fact as many people with "normal" chloesterol levels as those with high cholesterol levels will experience cardiovascular problems. High cholesterol IS a problem but what is the solution??
4. Most common solution for high cholesterol is the prescription of Statin drugs.
5. Statin drugs SHUT OFF your bodies ability to product CoQ10.

Conclusion - If you have high cholosterol do everything you can to reduce it WITHOUT resorting to Statin drugs.
If you succumb to pressure and use statin drugs you MUST supplement with CoQ10, and get off of them as soon as possible.

High Cholesterol is not necessarily directly correlated to cardiac problems.
LOW COQ10 IS directly correlated to cardiac problems.

PS- Good idea to take care of your teeth too.

Craig

I have found coconut and coconut oil to be amazingly good for teeth, both to whiten and strengthen teeth. I have also read that brushing with powdered cayenne pepper will regenerate gun tissue. IIRC, I tried this about 2 years ago and it worked.

Know of any iron tooth qigong?

I'm trying the Thieves toothpaste next.

I use olive and coconut oil that are not too pungent, in a 1:1 ratio as a CF margarine.
I have been using Omega Nutrition Organic VCO. I absolutely love its clarity and richness, but I really hate the price on it ($13-$15 per oz) and also that it's packaged in plastic. While I don't mind paying GOOD money for a good product, I've been looking into some others types.
Spectrum is okay and it's about $6 per pint.
Garden of Life is the same price, but it comes in glass. I don't know if you can get such a decent VCO for less than that.
Nutiva has a beautifully crystalline appearance, which most people find desirable.
If you are really wanting bulk, I came across this excellent find with mountainroseherbs.com (no financial affinity) that sell CO for only $28 a gallon when alot of places charge 50 bucks for junk.

but I don't think I'd ever be able to use the cayenne ... LMAO
It already causes my throat to swell shut ... I have to take ice cubes and force them against my throat to prevent asphyxiation.

I don't even use tooth-paste. I've always figured that it was a commercial invention that is really pretty unnecessary.
I don't have yellow-teeth, I have no cavaties or any dental problems, I don't have bad breath.

I don't know anything about it. Do you know anything? What is it supposed to be? any stories?

Anyway that's what I would makeup
for my personal tooth hard qigong regimen:

First: Build up chi. Then massage the teeth with your fingers, or wooden tools, clap the jaws, chew on pieces of completley dried old wholegrain bread three times a day for 1 hour.
Do this for 1 month.
Then: chew on something harder (without injuring your teeth or gum) like
hmm... nutshells! wood? Soft Stones? Increase gradually over months.
Ask a friend to hit you in the mouth twice every day. First only soft, than increase the force gradually. no... actually ...skip that one.
Bite also on a thick piece of leather (later one can change to wood). Attach weights on the piece of leather until you can lift heavy weights with your mouth. Gradually change to drawing trucks and railroad cars in public performances.
Any more ideas? (Don't try this at home.)

(I just dreamed about actually practicing this, maybe I can attain something after all, then I would produce a video, no actually a series of videos for different levels putting some fancy stuff in like old secret lineages of chinese guru transmission, special secret chinese dental herbs, selling additional master classes, certificates, books, tools, herbs, bicycles, tooth qigong music, t-shirts, stickers . Or I could write a book about my encounters with a famous old tooth-qigong master living secluded in the mountains, severely practicing his art and such. Then maybe there will be people practicing it and even achieve results or more probabably not and I could go and meditate about wether karma is real or not ... ahhhhh, *scared*)

don't want to mock or offend anybody btw. just cannot think seriously in the moment, sorry for that.


then on a more serious note there comes to my mind: a craniosacral practitioner told me in advanced classes they even treat single teeth - feeling its individual pulsation and movement patterns and then unwinding it. Could maybe also be a nice meditation practice. Feel one tooth after the other pulsating until your mouth is a vessel of pulsating teeth. But not so much till they fall out!


œfenbröt

Count me in for the bicycles!! (come on... who wouldn't want a bicycle from a tooth-chi-gong master??!! huh??) oh and the stickers please


P.S. The teeth all correspond to the meridians... I've got a chart somewhere... snapping your teeth lightly is apparently good to do...

I figured if there is white eyebrow kung fu then why not iron tooth fist?

Avoiding refined grains, or grains that were not properly fermented, is probably a good idea. Shrimp, clams, etc. and other shellfish have really helped my teeth, as has butter oil. Lard and organ meats from healthily-raised animals are said to be good. Fruit and veggies, except for dark leafy greens, don't help much, in my experience.

About 4 years ago I heard a guy on the radio, a retired bio-chemist, talk about how to keep your teeth and gums healthy, right into old age, by making some changes in what you use to brush your teeth with and adding a few supplements to the diet. Instead of using toothpaste, he recommends...hold on to your seats...using regular old BAR soap. Alright I know it sounds disgusting so before you call this guy nuts I actually tried his experiment. Actually I'm STILL using soap to brush my teeth with, and have been for the last 4 years. I'll NEVER go back to using toothpaste again. The difference between how my teeth and gums feel with using toothpaste and using soap is a HUGE difference. Not only that but for a guy who has a VERY serious periodontal problem I think I've found a way to arrest the condition, and the proof is in my dental x-rays. Since I switched to using soap my 9mm pockets have been reduced to 5mm.

When I first tried it I was hesitant, and the taste got to me a bit, but after the third or fouth time it was EASY, and now I don't even give it a second thought.

Now the reason this fellow recommends using soap is that toothpaste, in spite of their claims, does NOT clean your teeth, and worse yet does not permit re-enamalization to take place, which is crucial for healthy teeth. Soap DOES permit this to take place, and once you've tried it and see how clean your teeth feel, you'll never go back to toothpaste. Also you probably won't need to buy those expensive 'Tooth Soaps'. BTW I use a plain old white bar of Ivory soap which lasts just about forever, but Dr. Judd says ANY kind of bar soap will do.

I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Judd on several occassions and he's a very nice fellow. He's very patient and answers any questions (and I had many) that you may have. Anyway if anyone's interested here's his site...

http://gerardjudd.com/goodteeth.htm

PS: the next time your mom tells you to wash your mouth out with soap, don't argue with her!!!

Cool xray news! It's awesome to read first hand accounts!

If anyone is interested in the science angle, Google: dental recalcification pubmed

Tooth Soap isn't expensive--it lasts forever.

Hi Lozen,

I was comparing Tooth Soap to a plain ole bar of Ivory. $19.95 is a LOT more than $1.25, so by comparison it IS expensive, though in and of itself it isn't.

I've had it for several months now and am not even 1/4 way through... and since I won't put Ivory on my body, I certainly wouldn't put it in my mouth...

Via Vinny Pinto

Further, and here the percentages are, of course, lower than for the phenomena related above, I have heard a number of anecdotal reports (first-person and second-person) that indicate that a significant number of persons on partially-raw or fully-raw RVAF or Paleo diets who also supplemented extensively with minerals (particularly Ca, Mg, boron, and especially the so-called "chelated colloidal liquid minerals" from ancient seabeds) seem to experience full repair of all cavities, even to the extent of old restorations ("fillings") being pushed out of the tooth as the process unfolds.

I wonder where to find a quality "chelated colloidal liquid mineral from ancient seabed" product? Anyone?

PS - I brushed my teeth with soap today. We buy all natural organic hippy type soaps from Whole Foods so this one was not so bad at all. My teeth feel clean. I like the idea of letting my teeth "reenamelize". Cool!

Sean

THANK YOU for this thread - my 52-year old chompers (& Heart) need a bit of rejuvanization I will try the CoQ10 ASAP!

I dunno Sean but I'm doing cell salts and Himalayan crystal salt sole, both for minerals. Yum!

Did you brush your teeth with Bronner's?

I would love to see documented evidence.
Animals in the wild don't get cavities because they don't eat the crap we do.
They don't brush and they do lose teeth.
And their breath ain't pretty

Mythmaker,

google: dental recalcification pubmed for the documentation. Once I saw the science, I got pretty excited too. I've stopped toothpaste and am taking multminerals daily. Will report.

-Yoda

I'll bite- I do'nt think many critters in the wild get to live their full potential life span, some must and it may be that they have the best teeth - genetically speaking - to start with. But the organ-meat angle may help some and the veggie angle others. It appears that CoQ10 can be found in many sorts of foods,& this should help in many diets.
But teeth degeneration is a sure sign of aging in mammals.

Dr. Weston Price's research was all about cavities in different tribes based on diet.

http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_di..._of_africa.html

No it was a bar of soap, but I do have bronners too, that sounds like a good idea.

I really want to find some of this ancient sea bed colloidal liquid mineral stuff though. The thought of my teeth healing and popping all of my cavities out is so cool!

Sean

Bronner's tastes awful!

Interesting, however, I would need more hard evidence to believe a tooth would pop a filling out
and completely reform itself.
I haven't used toothpaste in over 20 years.
Why use soap.
I never let the dentist polish my teeth. It removes some enamel.

There's a disinclination to use bar soap (or any soap for that matter) for most people because of the taste. Though Dr. Judd says ANY bar soap will do I'm a little reticent about using just ANY brand since most deoderant soaps probably have chemicals in them. I chose Ivory because it seems to be the mildest and the least chemically laden.

I remember the first time I used soap on my teeth, I just stood in front of the mirror trying to rev myself up. Finally, after a minute, I just went for it. The first few moments were the worst, but after that the taste didn't seem to bother me much. However it was how my teeth felt afterwards that made me decide to use soap for the rest of my life. My teeth felt so clean that for the rest of the day I couldn't stop myself from running my tongue over them, they felt that clean. With each time I brushed it became easier and easier. By the third or fourth time I hardly hesitated, and today, as I said earlier, I don't even think about it.

You are so right. It's not so much the taste though, it's the lingering bitter aftertaste coating your entire tongue an hour later. Back to my hippy bar of soap. Also, I have a jar of baking soda and sea salt in my bathroom, so I'll swipe my bar of soap a few times and then pour a little of this concoction on there too. I can already feel my fillings loosening and preparing to shoot out like gunfire. I hope they don't hurt anyone.

For the folks at home: any opaque bar soap.

~~~

I haven't used toothpaste in quite awhile... I forget how long, but at least 6 months. There's a chance that a filling that had popped out (after I stopped using toothpaste) is healing by itself. But it could also be that it is smoothing out from wear... I don't know.

I'm going to up my iron free multiminerals and see if I can really get them strong and pop the rest of the fillings out.

-Yoda

For those of you advanced magicians there is a spirit in bardon's evocation book that says he can teach you how to grow a new set of teeth. How's that for a motive to learn magic?

some new thoughts have just crystalized for me... So I've been using salt, baking soda, and soap at various times in the last 6-12 months. First I used salt and then switched to soap/soda. I don't remember this happening during my salt use, but maybe the beginnings were there...

Recently, whenever I eat something hard like granola, I find that I have to chew gently or my teeth sort of 'hurt' a bit. I don't think that this ever happened before now. I kept thinking that maybe I need to up my minerals in order to recalcify but then again when I was using toothpaste I didn't take minerals and this wasn't happening.

I know that by not using toothpaste and by filtering my tap water, I don't get *any* flouride and it finally occured to me that this may be the reason my teeth feel a bit more delicate right now.

Dr Judd's point in avoiding toothpaste is to avoid the glycerin that slimes the teeth so they can't recalcify. I don't think he has a problem with the flouride part. And my experience away from toothpaste has been favorable in terms of cleanliness from the soap and the whitening from the baking soda, so I want to keep that part up.

But Mrs Yoda bought some flouride mouthrinse yesterday and that's what got me thinking. I think it would be a good idea for people like me who don't use toothpaste or drink tap water to use a rinse like this.

Anyways, I'll experiment with it and report back.