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beancurdturtle
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老子:「道德经」:第四十九章
圣人常无心,以百姓心为心。
善者,吾善之﹔不善者,吾亦善之﹔德善。
信者,吾信之﹔不信者,吾亦信之﹔德信。
圣人在天下,歙歙焉,为天下浑其心,
  百姓皆注其耳目,圣人皆孩之。

Laozi "Dao de Jing": Chapter 49
The sage does not distinguish between himself and the world;
The needs of other people are as his own.

He is good to those who are good;
He is also good to those who are not good,
Thereby he is good.
He trusts those who are trustworthy;
He also trusts those who are not trustworthy,
Thereby he is trustworthy.

The sage lives in harmony with the world,
And his mind is the world's mind.
So he nurtures the worlds of others
As a mother does her children.

Recently I was asked to define what I mean when I use the word "respect." That's a fair question - so let's give it a whirl.

My definition of the word "respect" is based on Chapter 49 of Laozi's Dao de Jing. By my simple minded understanding, this chapter is "The Golden Rule" (aka "the ethic of reciprocity") stated in Taoist terms.

The same thought has been expressed in many ways over centuries:
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"Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself: I am the LORD." — Moses (ca. 1525-1405 BCE) in the Torah Leviticus 19:18

"This is the sum of duty; do naught onto others what you would not have them do unto you." from the Mahabharata (5:15:17) (ca. 500BCE)

"What you do not wish upon yourself, extend not to others." — Confucius (ca. 551–479 BCE)

"What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow man." — Hillel (ca. 50 BCE-10 CE)

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." — Jesus (ca. 5 BCE—33 CE) in the Gospels, Matthew 7:12, Luke 6:31, Luke 10:25

"None of you truly believes until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself." — Muhammad (c. 571 – 632 CE) Hadith.

Respect for me is a great deal about acceptance and acting in accordance with "the ethic of reciprocity." What does "respect" mean to you?
fatherpaul
QUOTE(beancurdturtle @ Jul 21 2007, 04:13 PM) *

Recently I was asked to define what I mean when I use the word "respect." That's a fair question - so let's give it a whirl.

My definition of the word "respect" is based on Chapter 49 of Laozi's Dao de Jing. By my simple minded understanding, this chapter is "The Golden Rule" (aka "the ethic of reciprocity") stated in Taoist terms.

The same thought has been expressed in many ways over centuries:

Respect for me is a great deal about acceptance and acting in accordance with "the ethic of reciprocity." What does "respect" mean to you?



"the bhudda is in the heart of all beings"

*bows*

peace my brother,

fatherpaul
zenbrook
QUOTE(fatherpaul @ Jul 21 2007, 09:37 PM) *

"the bhudda is in the heart of all beings"

*bows*
ZenB
林愛偉
QUOTE(zenbrook @ Jul 21 2007, 12:52 PM) *

*bows*
ZenB



*bows*
beancurdturtle
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Mike Rambling
Beancurdturtle, greetings from a new member.

Your quote from chapter 49 of the Tao Te Ching is lovely. Can you tell us please which translation it's from.

Many thanks in advance.
Mike Rambling
QUOTE(Mike Rambling @ Jul 22 2007, 10:04 PM) *

Beancurdturtle, greetings from a new member.

Your quote from chapter 49 of the Tao Te Ching is lovely. Can you tell us please which translation it's from.

Many thanks in advance.


Sigh. I should have Googled before asking. It's version 2.07 of Peter Merel's interpolation.

As my humble way of redeeming myself, let me offer up this alternate version from Merel's more recent interpolation (version 4.1):


49. People
The gentle do not distinguish between self and world;
The needs of other people are as their own.

They are good to those who are good;
They are also good to those who are not good,
Thereby they are good.
They trust those who are trustworthy;
They also trust those who are not trustworthy,
Thereby they are trustworthy.

The gentle live in harmony with the world,
And their mind is the world's mind.
So they nurture the worlds of others
As a mother does her children.



Both versions of Merel can be found here.

Update: I’ve created a side-by-side comparison of Merel’s translations of the Tao Te Ching (PDF 345 KB).
fatherpaul
"The gentle live in harmony with the world,
And their mind is the world's mind.
So they nurture the worlds of others
As a mother does her children."

*bows*
林愛偉
QUOTE(fatherpaul @ Jul 23 2007, 01:37 AM) *

"The gentle live in harmony with the world,
And their mind is the world's mind.
So they nurture the worlds of others
As a mother does her children."

*bows*


If one cultivates this teaching, they will indeed encounter healthy and peaceful
environments of dweling. They will attain good roots in cultivation, and attain the result
of good virtue, patience, compassion and wisdom.


Peace and Happiness,
Aiwei
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