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cloud recluse
Have been in a deeply self-preoccupied blur for nigh on 12 months now, exacerbated recently by realising I probably wont be getting to check out Adyashanti when he travels Downunder this year mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

But this has led me to wonder about the Local Talent ( I think I could afford a tram ticket,& the travel time would be more feasible laugh.gif ).

Any locals at all experienced with Sailor Bob Adamson ? anyone actually checked out the guy in person? Any feedback ?

Regards,Cloud smile.gif
sean
Who is asking? wink.gif

I can't resist. Every time. Sorry. Proceed. tongue.gif

Sean
Pero
QUOTE(sean @ Sep 9 2007, 02:43 AM) *

Who is asking? wink.gif

I can't resist. Every time. Sorry. Proceed. tongue.gif

Sean


I don`t get it, is this related to something sailor Bob teaches?. Can someone explain it to me so that I could laugh too? laugh.gif
cloud recluse
QUOTE(sean @ Sep 9 2007, 10:43 AM) *

Who is asking? wink.gif



Chuckle tongue.gif

OK,Ill tell you WHAT is asking,sort of laugh.gif

A motive is asking. Thats whats asking. A motive that wants some face-to-face contact, some kind of'frission.'

I probably dont have the travel time to see Adya this year ( and OH how I could bitch & moan about THAT ), so Im wondering about the locals .Downunder Daoists can sometimes miss out on the 'Big Names '.Specially when youre flat broke with work committments that preclude much travel.

So this motive just wants itself some juice tongue.gif

Regards,Cloud smile.gif
Mal
QUOTE(cloud recluse @ Sep 9 2007, 10:34 AM) *


Any locals at all experienced with Sailor Bob Adamson ? anyone actually checked out the guy in person? Any feedback ?



Hi Cloud,

No usefull feedback, have not heard of Sailor Bob.

But if it makes you feel less isolated I'm looking for teachers in Townsville, North Queensland.

hahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahaaaa........... err
Yoda
If I am thinking of the right guy, Sailor Bob is on youtube.
sean
QUOTE(Pero @ Sep 8 2007, 05:58 PM) *

I don`t get it, is this related to something sailor Bob teaches?. Can someone explain it to me so that I could laugh too? laugh.gif

It's this Advaitic inquiry that Sailor Bob is known for pressing. Like when someone asks him, what kind of practice can I do to get enlightened, he will often reply with some variation of "Who is asking the question". He is trying to turn your inquiry back on itself, to awaken a spontaneous recognition of the insubstantial basis of a personal self that can do anything, much less find a practice to get enlightened. But it's turned into a kind of an inside joke in his circle. I think some of his students actually made t-shirts and hats that say "who is asking the question?" as a joke. biggrin.gif

Sean
mat black
ive been meaning to go to sailor Bob for ages. i'll go soon, now with the weather warming up (sort of)
sean
PS - Great to see you back here cloud buddy. smile.gif
cloud recluse
QUOTE(sean @ Sep 11 2007, 08:17 PM) *

PS - Great to see you back here cloud buddy. smile.gif


Aaawww,Shucks wub.gif

Sean,its always good to plug in here,but I havent felt that Ive had much to contribute lately.
But Spring is sputtering into life downunder & Im feeling a little less "Reclusive" laugh.gif

Seriously though, last I looked Adya was bypassing Melbourne, so I miss out this year sad.gif You yanks are all so spoiled tongue.gif

QUOTE(mat black @ Sep 11 2007, 07:56 PM) *

ive been meaning to go to sailor Bob for ages. i'll go soon, now with the weather warming up (sort of)


I take it youve not checked him out before then ? Im all ears for any impressions you garner smile.gif

Regards,Cloud.
Wayfarer64
I've also missed you Cloud Recluse.

I too have not been on the Bums very often of late -

But the growth here is amazing -Sean ...you have built a great site !!!

I am sorry I missed you guys in NYC- but I was in Atlantic City etc ... looking for work & a place to live...

Basic stuff that kept me away from contact-

In any case It feels good to say howdy right here and now !
sean
Ahh... Wayfarer64, good to see you too!

I've been pretty absent myself for the last several months. Starting to free up my time for TTB again finally. smile.gif
cloud recluse
QUOTE(Mal @ Sep 11 2007, 11:08 AM) *

Hi Cloud,

No usefull feedback, have not heard of Sailor Bob.

But if it makes you feel less isolated I'm looking for teachers in Townsville, North Queensland.

hahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahaaaa........... err


OK, you are definetely more isolated than me biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Wayfarer64 @ Sep 12 2007, 02:15 AM) *

I've also missed you Cloud Recluse.
....


The feeling is mutual smile.gif
Its seems quite a while since Ive made any decent contribution here.Hoping warmer weather will bring a bit of inspiration.

Regards,Cloud smile.gif
Wayfarer64
My only knowledge of Sailor Bob came through a link I found here...

he does seem to be a very interesting sort of bloke... I hope you get a chance to meet him.... and he you too of course!

Sean ....Please -try to realize that to feel anything but pride for what you have created here, is missing the importance of what you've done for us.

Even as the three of us have been somewhat absent from the board of late - WOW_ it has grown!

We are each and all much better people for having known eachother -even if merely in cyberspace.-
xuesheng
Hi cloud,
Did you ever seek out Sailor Bob? I've never met him but from what I've seen and read he seems to be the kind of guy that would be worth talking to.
Best,
Steve
cloud recluse
QUOTE(xuesheng @ Oct 16 2007, 06:08 AM) *

Hi cloud,
Did you ever seek out Sailor Bob? ...
Alas, Im working 10 hour shifts 4-5 days a week( Im actually typing this at work ) ,& havent really seen ANYONE for a while tongue.gif But its definetely a plan. Probabaly for the Holidays.

Regards, Cloud smile.gif
mat black
went to Sailor Bob's this morning.
very direct, immediate, profound......................peels away the layers of ignorance and illusion................
to the extent that one is willing to drop attatchments to views..............thus is revealed.

Thanks to whoever it was that originally brought Bob to notice on this forum
Cameron
cool.
mat black
Ah, I thought it was you Cam - thanks.

Bob does a bit of an 'intro' talk, and then there's a discussion from questions that people ask. People ask questions, some others try to answer them, then Bob brings it it back to the fundamental point every time.

What's better than having a question answered? Being in the state where there are no questions, and in awareness, pure self illuminating intelligence remains. _/\_


Cameron
awesome, sounds like a great experience.
cloud recluse
QUOTE(mat black @ Mar 30 2008, 03:05 PM) *

went to Sailor Bob's this morning.
very direct, immediate, profound......................peels away the layers of ignorance and illusion................
to the extent that one is willing to drop attatchments to views..............thus is revealed.

Thanks to whoever it was that originally brought Bob to notice on this forum


Good stuff, keep it coming ( to the extent you can put it in words smile.gif )

Should be back in Melbourne in May, with time on my hands .

Regards, Cloud smile.gif
xuesheng
Hi Mat,
Glad to hear that you got to meet with "that which has been labelled sailor Bob" wink.gif
Sounds like a worthwhile experience.
Care to tell any more about it?
Peace
_/\_
mat black
QUOTE
Care to tell any more about it?


Hi Steve, I'll try, but the first thing i'll say is that putting it into words isn't easy. wink.gif Notwithstanding the fundametal illusion of a seperate 'self', past & future, for the sake of communication, these terms are used. smile.gif
To use a metaphore. If our original undefiled self illuminous nature is like the clear sky, and all the thoughts & conditioning is like fog or clouds.
Also, some have a more thick fog obscuring the sky than others do. So it's different for everyone. I say this because some got the message, others sort of did, and others were still grasping to concepts.
And it was interesting to me, that some of the regular crew seemed a bit agitated that others were not 'getting it'.

Bob's pointers resonate with the clear sky so that the clouds/fog simply clears away. At least that's how it happend to 'me', and the peace, depth, stillness, etc was there, though the recognition of that has since been, and is often obscured by identification with thoughts & concepts, feelings, emotions etc.
I supppose the extent to which this clearing will occur for each person is dependent upon the willingness to let go & allow a 're-cognition'.
For me, until the recognition of pure self illumination is undisturbed, there seems to be a bit of a flux back and forth to verying degrees.
Of course, even having said that, the clear sky is always there, always untouched. But to know this through dierct and constant self experience seems to be the key, for which, as Sri Raman Maharshi said, find the source of the experiencer. Or, as Bob puts it "have a look". - potent & immediate smile.gif




Cameron
I like the title of one of his books,

"What's Wrong With Right Now? Unless You Think About It."

And in case you didn't already know you can hear alot of Bob on the Advaita Show.
xuesheng
QUOTE(mat black @ Mar 30 2008, 03:46 PM) *

Hi Steve, I'll try, but the first thing i'll say is that putting it into words isn't easy. wink.gif Notwithstanding the fundametal illusion of a seperate 'self', past & future, for the sake of communication, these terms are used. smile.gif
To use a metaphore. If our original undefiled self illuminous nature is like the clear sky, and all the thoughts & conditioning is like fog or clouds.
Also, some have a more thick fog obscuring the sky than others do. So it's different for everyone. I say this because some got the message, others sort of did, and others were still grasping to concepts.
And it was interesting to me, that some of the regular crew seemed a bit agitated that others were not 'getting it'.

Bob's pointers resonate with the clear sky so that the clouds/fog simply clears away. At least that's how it happend to 'me', and the peace, depth, stillness, etc was there, though the recognition of that has since been, and is often obscured by identification with thoughts & concepts, feelings, emotions etc.
I supppose the extent to which this clearing will occur for each person is dependent upon the willingness to let go & allow a 're-cognition'.
For me, until the recognition of pure self illumination is undisturbed, there seems to be a bit of a flux back and forth to verying degrees.
Of course, even having said that, the clear sky is always there, always untouched. But to know this through dierct and constant self experience seems to be the key, for which, as Sri Raman Maharshi said, find the source of the experiencer. Or, as Bob puts it "have a look". - potent & immediate smile.gif

Thanks Mat - if I weren't on the other side of the world, I'd love to meet Bob. He sounds like a special guy.
Ian
QUOTE(Cameron @ Mar 31 2008, 04:58 AM) *

I like the title of one of his books,

"What's Wrong With Right Now? Unless You Think About It."



I just started reading this. It's good. No practice beyond investigating the truth, but his definitions and frames of reference take away a lot of one's hiding places.
mat black
QUOTE(Ian @ Apr 10 2008, 08:33 PM) *

I just started reading this. It's good. No practice beyond investigating the truth, but his definitions and frames of reference take away a lot of one's hiding places.

Yes Ian, that's a good way of puting it - taking away hiding places. When i went to Bob's, listening to him and being open, following the 'pointers' like a zen master of sorts........i was stripped bare.
Some people were like.."but if i do that completely, 'i'll ceses to exist, how will i be able to function without all my past references of identity, what will be left?"........
Bob's response was something along the lines of: - when you investigate, drop those atattchments to identity remain mindful and look into where your 'I' comes from, you will not cease to exist and you will still function in the world. The functioning won't be from conditioning, but from the pure untainted intelligence.
That intelligence, prior to conditions, thought, judgements, opinions, identity was always there, we just obscured it.
It's an experience to feel that you are stripped bare, but really, when aware at the same time, it seems pretty close to freedom. biggrin.gif

Ian
QUOTE(mat black @ Apr 11 2008, 06:02 AM) *

Yes Ian, that's a good way of puting it - taking away hiding places. When i went to Bob's, listening to him and being open, following the 'pointers' like a zen master of sorts........i was stripped bare.
Some people were like.."but if i do that completely, 'i'll ceses to exist, how will i be able to function without all my past references of identity, what will be left?"........
Bob's response was something along the lines of: - when you investigate, drop those atattchments to identity remain mindful and look into where your 'I' comes from, you will not cease to exist and you will still function in the world. The functioning won't be from conditioning, but from the pure untainted intelligence.
That intelligence, prior to conditions, thought, judgements, opinions, identity was always there, we just obscured it.
It's an experience to feel that you are stripped bare, but really, when aware at the same time, it seems pretty close to freedom. biggrin.gif


Yup!

What I really like is the way he points out that it's already happening and that basically you don't exist, you just thnk you do!

BTW, where in Oz does he live? I've got a couple of friends down there I might point his way...
mat black
QUOTE(Ian @ Apr 11 2008, 06:21 PM) *

Yup!

What I really like is the way he points out that it's already happening and that basically you don't exist, you just thnk you do!

BTW, where in Oz does he live? I've got a couple of friends down there I might point his way...

He's east of Melbourne in Deepdene (between Kew and Balwyn) on Burke road.
berrywild
rolleyes.gif i heard about sailor bob holding meetings at his home:

Meetings with Bob are held three times each week at:

4 / 950 Burke Road - Deepdene - Melbourne - Australia.
(Melways page 45-K7) Corner of Whitehorse and Burke roads.

Times: Tuesday and Thursday evenings from 7.30pm to 9pm
and
Sunday morning 10am - 11.30am.

and thought what sort of weirdo.....5 yrs later i ended up there thru the now-for-you forum and couldnt stay away from the love able ol fella. He is totally wild. never have i returned to a place like a bee to the honey. Years i found my self heading there and then one day it stopped as curiously as it started. No more suffering. Underlying peace and a sense of well being.. All effortless living as this bloke points out. so i did a few utubes on his meetings.. dont go by them tho as they are just utubes. Its like anything, some may resonate and some not.. all i know is he is 79 in body years and see him while you can. not many westerners get this opportunity so saddle up. Bob met nissagardatta years ago and that shift has seemed to be shown in full view. Its the essence of 'Bpb' that hit home here and forever greatful for reminding me of that I am. rolleyes.gif
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