I was thinking it would be fun to have a thread specifically on the benefits of Kunlun practice.

For the first time in my life, I think I've found a practice that will help me evolve emotionally. It's only been a week, but I'm already hearing music more clearly and feeling more deeply.

I'm hoping this will continue!!

Forgetting that you are a human being is interesting.

Seeing all your deepest darkest fears plunged into your face with a spotlight on it until you deal with it is interesting.

Oh..benefits..Max does say your erections will get stronger and stronger with regular practice!

The vibrating capstone millions of miles above my head last month-or whenever it was-was pretty interesting.

Just not something you can anticipate...a vibrating capstone milllions of miles above your head.

Of course you have to make sure to always ground out with Burger King(Or In-N-Out Burger if your karma is good enough to live in LA or Phoenix) and Cocal Cola or Mountain Dew afterwards.

Kunlun penis enlargement and long hard erections!!!! only 15USD.....

LMAO

He didn't say penis enlargment for only $15 jackass he said your energy would improve and thus the penis would get stronger over time.

Though if I got an extra couple inches I wouldn't complain about it.

Cam, Cam , Cam...

What are you talking about now, bra? Me teenks you gone Kunloony.

Now, I am going to get slammed with questions about blissing yourself a mondo-cock. And of course it is a subject EVERYBODY is interested in. Great...

Here is my "official" response:
"While Kunlun Nei Gung may improve your sex life, and does open you up to a magnetically attractive, radiantly loving, divine, blissful state, all erections lasting longer than 36 hours should be considered abnormal and the advice of a health care professional should be immediately sought.

Any additional growth of your man-meat is entirely coincidental and atypical. Individual results may vary."


Actually, on second thought, maybe I should stop trying to generate interest in this practice by showing the dynamic demonstrations and instead just tell everyone that Kunlun gives you a massive log-splitter between your legs.

No doubt we would have some seriously dedicated dudes with some very supportive girlfriends.

Brilliant!

Oh c'mon man....Max did say at the first workshop that your..umm...little buddy..would grow in strength as you progess in Kunlun.

I would not forget him saying that dude!

But in all seriousness...I for one would be interested in seeing Max put together a book exclusively on his knowledge of the sexual practice.

Actually..if you were to ask my opinion of how you should do it(whatever you decide to do I am sure will be great but my 2 cents) you should leave Pillars of Bliss as is, put out a book on MaoShan 5 Elements, and a 3rd book on sexual practice.

Or just do all 3 in 1 book would be cool.

Sincerely,

Cam

Mantra, ROFLMAO!

Cameron Of course you thought he said that cause you in love with him!!! LOL

For the women they get inches on there Tits and tightens the fur burger too???

This Kunlun is getting out of hand.... You guys arent spiritual or close to the path IMHO!

"man-meat", "log-splitter", "fur burger" hahaha

Why do I get an image of anthropologists unearthing a laptop a thousand years from now and trying to decypher the mystic Tao Bum code. There would of course be one school which believed that the posts were allegorical and that we hid the true meaning from the unitiated. The other school of thought would be that the posts must be taken literally. We were cannibals who practiced log-splitting gong.

Ive had many good experiences and benefits from doing kunlun this month, without transmission. But the one thing that interests me the most is that my ability to see auras gets better, the chakras are more substantial and I can see a lot more of what they are about and their interaction with peoples internal and external worlds. All the energetic systems has become more visible with my physical eyes, not just my inner vision. Sometimes I feel like I see through an opening in the fog and things are crystal clear. If this practice expands after transmission, I cant wait to get it!

And while Im here I have a few questions to Wun Yuen Gong on the "you guys are not spiritual" comment. I dont see how you can come to the conclusion that kunlun practicing people are not spiritual. Why are they not spiritual?
And by "the path", what do you actually mean? Is there a ONE path that everyone must go to have spiritual progress that they have missed? If that is so, which path is it?

I have tried not to focus too much on the phenomena, or post about it anymore. I don't want to give the impression that I am chasing after these things or manufacturing them. For me though, Kunlun seems to be really focused on the third eye and crown. During practice, I feel energy pressurizing in the skull around my forehad and third eye. I have had experiences where I have "seen" inside my own body. Often when I close my eyes, I can sttill "see" my legs as light. Ironically I have only had one experience I would call blissfull. After about 40 minutes of practicing, this wave of tranquility reverberated through my body. I sat there for several minutes in complete peace and calm. It was very subtle, yet very powerful at the same time.

Easy there WYG. Judging others for language you yourself just used (sans funny) is not very nice.

Spirituality is about keeping it real.

Presenting a pious attitude to the world does not get you any closer to the Tao. If anything it creates another layer of ego-illusion that you have to work through.

Also, you've got to have a sense of humor or you'll never get it. The term "lighten up" applies directly to any spiritual cultivation and is the best advice one can give an aspirant.


Pretty amazing eh? We are truly incredible beings.

It is the deep internal work that is the true power of Kunlun. Bliss is just the feeling.

As long as WYG keeps saying us Kunluners are on the wrong track I can rest assured that we are most definetly on the right track.

Basically..he is a good gage. If WYG started agreeing with things I write and speaking highly of Max I would start to worry.

Keep up the good work WYG!

Y'all are too funny!!

I, personally, needed to see Max to get anywhere with the practice but I'm glad there are plenty of taobums obtaining great benefit without making the trip.

Yoda,

Do you think the transmission helped you, or was it more Max refining your posture etc...?

Ive been thinking about this question a long time but almost forgot I wanted to ask it...
Many of you have said that Max adjusted your position a little bit and then everything changed and got better with the practice. But what exactly is there to refine about this position? It is such an easy position... what can we do worng? Does he maby adjust your energychanels at the same time or is it just the position that changes everything?

Maby some of you can give an example of what he changes with your position?

I'm way too dense to tell you what was happening on the transmission side of the equation, other than that it's very powerful.

My posture was way off. I had read the book and focused on the position of the hands and feet but the position of all the body parts are important to activate the energy. Read and reread the instructions closely.

Both were very helpful, but I think the transmission was the key.

It sounded like the book does come with a transmission energy too, just not as deluxe.

If I lived on the other side of the planet, and seeing Max just wasn't in the cards, I could have figured it out if I was motivated to by paying very close attention to the directions... every word... and regularly practicing once a day for an hour, I could have figured it out. I didn't try very hard, myself, as I knew I was going to see him.

There definitely are little postural things that make a difference...I had some of those happen the other night and the energy got a whole lot better as part of it. I wrote about it in my personal practice if anyone's interested. I'm still not 100% on the posture...I can recall a few things that are still ambiguous for me, I'll have to reread the book again...steal it back from my girl, first

Hi Mantra,

Im not going to get into here about why i think your guys are not learning or becoming more "SPIRITUAL" with your practices. But i will say i do have a good sense of humor and i also have a warp imagination!

Now i didnt say you guys are not getting the results i just said you are not Spiritual!!! Practising chi kung does not make one Spiritual.

I will be attending the Australian seminar which i cant wait to meet you and Max and maybe i can get to see why KunLun is getting popular and talked about.

I have a question for you about the heels raised off the ground. Can you tell me why the legs bounce is it the nervesous system or you believe its chi coming through you? Do and can you get the same results with the heels flat on the ground if not WHY?

I can sit typing this post and my heels are raised and my legs bounce and tremble due to the nerves stabalising if thats a better word for it. There is nothing about chi for me typing this post!

Im not saying your practise is B.S i guess its ok to express your new found energy and self.

take care
WYG

I think it is best to say that it (bouncing) works like an on/off switch. It activates and then encourages the opening of the Kunlun energy. It creates a rhythm that matches the vibration of the kunlun energy which more easily allows it to be expressed.

Now, if you would like to work with it for a while you can gain your own understanding of what all of that means.

Good luck!

I have the book but im studying something else at present i will give it a try in the next few days.

Why do you call it Kun Lun energy, energy is energy why do you call it Kun Lun energy?

Is Kunlun a higher level then Max's thunder breathing, im hoping he will share that one day?

WYG

Some questions answer themselves when you do the practice.
As far as kunlun energy...certain practices give rise to certain energies...simple as that. You gotta call it somethin in order to speak of it!

i agree that practicing chi gung doesn't make you spiritual, and that kunlun isn't the end-all spiritual practice although it is great but is best coupled with studying spiritual philosophy and practicing it

Mickaelz

Great pic on the avatar!

In the book it says that you shouldnt do any other practise if you are doing "Kunlun Bliss" but alot of you that do it also add other practises, Why? Max teachers Kunlun and says not to train anything else but then teachers 5 element standing and erd phoenix??? WHY?

If the practise is what you all say it is why you need to add your old and or new practises to Kunlun Bliss?

These are some questions that have never been answered correctly, WHY?


Just some of my concerns and thoughts on all the threads, post from most of you all claiming Kunlun to be best but still do your other practises!!!

Any comments?

WYG

he means other energetic practices. i'm not talking about that.. and the other things he teaches i don't know about since i never took a seminar, but i can only guess that they supplement kunlun in someway

Guessing that it is just a safety precaution. Keep in mind it is a book for mass consumption. There would just be too many variables depending on the reader to spell out what would mix, and what the effects may be. Kind of like saying don't take this medication with other medications without first consulting your doctor. At least this is my take on it.



I am not saying what it is or isn't, just that it seems to produce some results. Besides, I enjoy my tai chi and wouldn't want to give it up



Probably because the question has never been asked



I don't claim it's the best. It's just a path, one of many.



Yes. If you ever travel back in time, don't step on anything because even the tiniest change can alter the future in ways you can't imagine.

He says not to do any other qi-moving practices. Kunlun activates energy in a certain fashion, and in order to make your start on it energetically coherent, they recommend not doing any other qi moving practices so that all of your qi moving can be focused on activating kunlun energy. The 5 elements and red phoenix he teaches are most likely energetically coherent with the kunlun practice, that's why he teaches them as a compliment.
At least, that's how I understood it

Joeblast,

Thanks for your honest answer, things like this should be cleared up cause in the book its says to do NOTHING else. So to read the book you would agree that one shouldnt practise anything with it?

Rabbit,

Mass production??? LOL I get what you mean mate, im happy you are all getting something from it, ill give it a try and see what the fuss is all about.



For anyone else that does "KunLun bliss" whats is your prespective on it for using the energy with fighting moves. Does this energy work with martial arts theories such as Taiji, waterboxing, or is it more of a health energy?

WYG

For a so called Taoist you sure blab on and ask alot of questions.

How about just practice it yourself for awhile and stop blabbing?

Your not learning 5 elements or Red Phoenix anyway as Max isn't coming to Australia until atleast well into next year.

Before you make some smart ass remark I will tell you from my understanding it's fine to do MA forms or whatever just not qigong.

OK?!

Thats why this is called a FORUM you f@cking Moron!!!

I ask questions all the time, on everything....Life is about questioning everything for me!!! I dont just follow blindly like some!!! LMAO

You need to get max's fist out of your ass a bit and dont take my questions to heart, im asking questions that is all. Dont get offensive!

Ok, since your being polite about it I will back off.

Just suggesting you use some common sense. Also, your manners could possibly be a little bit improved. For example, notice I don't constantly in like every other post tell you to take YOUR teachers fist out of YOUR ass and other such insulting remarks.

Best of luck in your practice!

My manners, LOL what about your in poilte answer to mine?

I do ask alot of questions that is true, thats why this forum is built to share information or talk crap which the latter seems to be.

Look at the threads on Taoist discussions and your name is on the start of most threads about should i do BJJ or this and can i do Kunlun that and should i not sleep or should i argue with WYG?? Im not here to argue but i am here to ask questions and if i feel i need to express what im feeling i write it even though i know its going to get a reply that may piss people off (but not wanting to) AND mostly its because people dont know the answer to what they are training.

As for MAX'S red phoenix im sure there is nothing new under the sun, i will see him at the seminar that is for sure!

I know people that know Max from Hawwaii for along time, my questions are about understanding what he has knowledge wise and since he hasnt come here maybe you lot can fill in some or my questions?

Is that too hard to comprehend Cameron???

WYG

WYG stop being a douche.
i don't like reading your posts when you get so defensive and sarcastic, frankly its annoying and doesn't belong on this forum. if you have a problem take it to PMs, but when you post on a public forum with all that aggression it really ruins the harmony

it's ok to ask questions, but don't get so defensive. who cares what Cameron says? no one reads his posts anyway

The psychic self control that is desirable in these surroundings and in the midst of discussion would mean among other things:

1. Not to allow the impulse of speech to assert itself too much or say anything without reflection, but to speak always with a conscious control and only what is necessary and helpful.

2. To avoid all debate, dispute or too animated discussion and simply say what has to be said and leave it there. There should be no insistence that you are right and the others wrong, but what is said should only be thrown in as a contribution to the consideration of the truth of the matter.

3. To keep the tone of speech and the wording very quiet and calm and uninsistent.

4. Not to mind at all if others are heated and dispute, but remain quiet and undisturbed and yourself speak only what can help things to be smooth again.

5. If there is gossip about others and harsh criticism, not to join - for these things are helpful in no way and only lower the consciousness from its higher level.

6. To avoid all that would hurt or wound others.

SRI AUROBINDO

This should be called Message Board Qigong. The art of energy maintenance while dealing with morons, smart-asses, jack holes and shit-for-brains people on the internet.

I have the book, although its not at my place and within reach at the moment. I dont recall exactly what verbiage was used, so I cant say with complete certainty if it said nothing else. What I took from it was from an internal perspective.

As far as a martial arts perspective, I think among the biggest things it would train would be a clear and present mind.

Cam, stop instigating. If WYG gets on your nerves, let it pass like you know you should. And WYG, noone wants to read arguments on a thread. So both of you, show a little maturity here.

Well put, Bindo

Mickealz,

Stop putting your boof head into it and stop with your name calling and practice what you preech?

Joe,

Whats the use in having a forum if one cannot ask questions and raise a topic on certain things that "THEY" feel they want to express?

I agree it is very immature but if i get slack from asking a question i will speak up for what i am and asked about. If people dont like my reply to there sarcastic reply then maybe maybe they shouldnt have replied in the way that they did?!

Your reply?? lol

WYG

Oh the irony, it`s too much to bear. ROFLMAO.

Really guys, you should start looking at your own shit and not just other people`s.

WYG, you do go over the top sometimes.

I said this before but you probably dont know what Im talking about yet. You get what you ask for. Its about attitude. People only react to attitude. You can often use the words you want, but its the attitude people answer. If you write your questions in another way, with different words showing a better attitude, Im shure you will get a lot more of the answers you want, not just comments on your attitude.

The point is to get the answers you want, right? Its a lot easier to change yourself than to change the world or other peoples reactions. When you see that your questions result in a lot more comments on your way of asking them than in answers, you should take a hint and try to adjust yourself so that you get what you want.

Im busy with that, still experimenting alot .. did notice allready those warnings of not mixing in with other practices arent made up for show so it takes time as everything has to go the safe way.

As a sidenote not aimed to anyone in particular it all comes down to the same principles whatever every individual's view would be (earth is a small planet), pitty humans like to scribble about the details so much and sometimes forget about the main goal.

Cheers guys, keep up the kun !

Sheng zeng,

Cameron and i have had similar arguements! No, those werent started by me....



Ok, ill try and ask for answers in a better way as a test and see what happens?

WYG

Exactly the crap I'm talking about. That picture was funny. Laugh and move on.
You dont need to ask for a reply. Keep in mind that text is absent any vocal inflections and is very easily misconstrued. All you need to do is proofread your post when you are done writing it and put yourself at the other end of the internet when reading it back over.
Aside from that, people are getting irritated at the fact that you're repeatedly asking questions that have been answered many times over and we know you have seen those answers. Not that extra clarification is verboten, but when you dont ask anything new...its like dude, didnt you read it the first 12 times around?
Not that sarcasm doesnt have its place...but when you overuse it, like any other spice, it spoils the meal.
Now thank Yoda for his nice big compilation of Kunlun posts, you should be able to find 99% of what you are looking for there.

If you have legit questions, you know the people in this forum are great and quite often go well out of their way to answer. Employ some wisdom with sarcasm, and if Cam doesnt like your post, then control yourself and just ignore it. TBH, I thought the $15 penis enlargement was funny, but from the next post on, nothing was funny. Except for Mickealz's pic. That was funny too.
/end rant

I fucking love colouring!!! Im fell off the chair this morning when I saw it!! It really made my day

Good stuff, huh?

I am very happy for you.

Another update from another thread from Winpro07:

I am having the same kinds of needs for energy.
My body craves sweets before Kunlun, and after Kunlun, my body requires another meal. I tried eating right before Kunlun, and then afterwards my belly was grumbling, even though I had just eaten.
I used to fight with my fiance quite often, but I have yet to get in a fight with her since I've started Kunlun, mainly because I have no desire to fight, and when she gets angry with things, I immediately nullify the situation and make her smile and realize its silly to be angry over such things. Kunlun is helping me with relationships with all people, being able to get myself out of the traps people set for each other, and wake those up around me to see themselves getting trapped in ego's, anger etc.. Ever since I have started Kunlun, those around me are becoming more peaceful, just with my presence, maybe its because its the holidays, but usualy when I walk into a room and just smile at people, or goof around, the stress, and aggression just fades out. Love > Hate any day!

Ben

That is telling you that you are running the fire and the body needs fuel to burn!

Becareful!!!!