I am going to do an email interview with Jack Johnston, creator of the Male Multiple Orgasm Step-by-Step product. If you are unfamiliar, basically he has refined a specific form of vocalization that he teaches as part of a method to elicit multiple valley orgasms and "heartgasms" in both men and women. It's a pretty unique method, I've played with it in the past a bit and have recently begun experimenting with it again and exchanging emails with Jack.

So he has offered to do a Tao Bums interview. The only other man who has survived such a grueling encounter was Ken Cohen himself, so let's see if Jack is up to the task.

So whether you have a lot of experience with his techniques or zero, check out the site at http://www.multiples.com/ and hit me with your best questions.

Here are some off the top of my head:

Does this technique work for everyone?
How long can I expect to see results?
What is a suggested daily/weekly practice routine for creating optimum results in reasonable time frame?
Do I always have to make this sound during intercourse?
How would you describe a valley orgasm? A heartgasm?
Are you suggesting there is there really such a thing as intense, pleasurable, climactic style orgasm, complete with PC and penile contractions without ejaculation or retrograde ejaculation?

Hit me guys and girls, I need your input!

Sean

Cool thing, Sean.

Here are just a few:

1. His technique relies not only on sound but the right breathing pattern, right? What does he suggest people to do if their breathing is restricted for whatever reasons?

2. What is his experience. If people do that sound all the time. What "happens to sperm production"... will people have wet dreams once in a while to "clear the ducts" or is that problem solved by doing the sound on a continous base.

3. Premature ejaculation can often be rephrased as Pre-pre-mature ejaculation. You do not even properly manage to enter the "gate of eden"... what is suggested then? Do the sound before entering intercourse?

4. Is there is mean time he found from having to do the sound vocalized to being able to do it subvocalized?



Harry

Jack, you claim that the sound is part of our DNA. How so? Does making the sound affect our DNA? If it is part of our DNA could anyone have discovered this, and if not then why you?

Hey Sean,

Great idea! I am interested in the effectiveness of this technique for energetic, consciousness raising and expansion purposes in the context of a celibate renunciate making use of the path of meditation. Thus, the questions would be as follows, rephrased as appropriate:

(1) I understand paraplegics may make use of this technique for experiencing full blown, deep valley orgasms, even though there is no possibility or use of genital stimulation or ejaculatory involvement at any stage throughout, either before orgasm, during or after; thus, may a celibate induce the energetic and subjective experience of orgasm without sexual stimulation of any kind or its consequent ejaculatory contractions? If so, what would be the effect on the physical body?

(2) Have you broadly documented the effects of this method on consciousness, your own and other’s, and if so, what are the known short and long term effects on the practitioner’s mental state?

(3) Can one make use of this method for spiritual, consciousness expansion and raising purposes? And can you say something about your experience and that of others in this regard?

(4) After having practiced this method yourself for X number of years, what effects has it had on you, and why should the general readership consider practicing it?

Many thanks Sean, and good luck with the interview; I very much look forward to reading it!

In kind regards,

Adam.

Thanks guys, great questions.

Here are some more I came up with.

Do you have any experience monitoring the effects of your practice with longer term abstinence from ordinary orgasm/ejaculation yet while remaining sexually active? In other words, how does your practice effect Karezza style sexuality, "Peace Between The Sheets" ala http://www.reuniting.info/, etc. Can you speak to how the key sound practice might help alleviate issues that come up in this approach -- ie, withdrawal symptoms from abstaining avoiding ordinary orgasm/ejaculation, feelings of addiction/compulsion, feelings of pressure build up over time, energy getting stuck in head or other various energy centers, wet dreams (as Harry asked), volatile emotions, etc.

Expanding on Adam West's questions, can the key sounds be practiced "dry" outside of any sexual context, ie: during seated or standing meditation, or even a moving meditation like Tai Chi? Any direct experience with students experimenting with the key sound as a sacred mantra?

Are you aware of any correlations between your key sound discovery and sacred sounds in other cultures. In the "Six Healing Sounds" of Chinese Taoism/Buddhism you can find variations of the Huu sound corresponding to both the Kidney (Water) and the Spleen/Stomach (Earth) centers, along with variations of the Haaa sound corresponding to the Heart (Fire) center. So looked at from this system, the key sound "Huuu-Ahhhh" with a rising intonation could be thought of as a vocal alchemical attempt to move Water (sexual) energy from the kidneys along with Earth energy from the spleen/stomach up to the Heart (Fire) center. Do you have any thoughts about this? http://baharna.com/chant/six_healing.htm

Keep 'em coming!

Sean

There are only two questions which matter. IMO.

1. Have you, Jack Johnson, experienced spiritual evolution as a result of your practice?

2. If so, by what mechanism?

*bump*

Ok, I'm going to do interview soon. Last chance for questions. Thanks.

Sean

ahhh...I have one.....What the hell are you guys talking about? (must be a generational thing)

You want to have great sex? Form a relationship with someone you can love and trust.....clear your mind of all this 'performance' stuff (it will make you nervous)........take your time touching till......be two bodies locked together…two souls joined as one, until no separation can be found and the dancers become the dance.

I mean no offense, but that will be as good as it gets.

In america you guys think and talk too much...........sex is a doing thing......

Jack's technique is about experiencing non-ejaculatory "valley orgasms" and heart-centered orgasms with or without a partner and with or without physical stimulation of any kind.

Sean

First off, I'd say there's not such "multiorgasmic" thing among men. If you cum, you cummed. Period.

Another thing is to have pseudoorgasms during a sex intercourse. I've felt them while practising taoism, and they use to occur along the spine, and in between the navel and the column.

There's something interesting to point out. When you have sex (with partner or alone), your sex energy starts to move to the base of the penis, and feels watery. When you have sex and you have to ascend it, that energy retreats back, and feels fiery.

Maybe that's not very meaningful, said in words. But that's what I feel. When the energy starts to ascend up the spine, those mini pseudo orgasms start to pop up, and visuda starts to spin and expand.

What common mistakes do people make when they first try the system?

How much self practice is recommended before playing w/ a partner?

What are your success rates and what holds people back from experiencing it?

Look forward to the interview. I believe Yoda did some work in this area.


Michael

I feel that I found the answer with Max.

But I really only have one question in this area.

Any tips to help open the front channel/open the downward flow of jing and keep the energy balanced.

Ok..one more question..the role of "emotional work" and sexual energy work.

C

Excuse me pointing out a clear terminological misconception:

If you cum, you cummed = ejaculation not equal orgasm:
please see: http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=11783

and sure it is possible to ejaculate multiple times in one row, if ones body allows... not recommended though.

being multiorgasmic then means to have the climax multiple times (in the sense the link is giving) and this sure enough is possible, if one is lucky or trained enough...



Harry

Sunshine:

You're absolutely right. Ejaculation is one thing, and orgasm is another one. I had another idea on my mind, but I didn't explained it correctly enough.

What I meant is that there is a significant difference in between a complete orgasm, ie with ejaculation, and a non ejaculatory one. The first, in my opinion, is the complete one. The second, more than an orgasm, is a collection of sensations through your whole body...

If I'm wrong (and I'm talking from my own experience) I'd like to hear from others.

Once, I heard there's a massage technique in the lower back that makes you multiorgasmic with no other effort. Another myth, or a real fact?

I would ask if there are any common side effects to the techniques

Reminded me of an American Dad episode where Stan uses a code phrase to activate a secret CIA brainwashed-robot-Manchurian-candidate program in his daughter Meg. The creators of the program had to make sure the trigger phrase is unique and won't occur spontaneously in everyday life under any circumstances.

The phrase was, "I'm getting fed up with this orgasm!"

So my question would be, have any of the clients ever said that?

If it is not too late, could you add this question for Jack, please:
"Is there any effect from doing the Key Sound silently"
i.e. making all the right vocal/physical movements, but without making the sound.

I would ask where did you find out about this and who taught this to you unless this is already common knowledge. I would also ask if there are physical health benefits that people have experienced, does this physically invigorate the system.

so what has happened to this interview?

I've been waiting....


wow... my first post in a long time and it just happens to be my "666" post.

hehehehehehe.

I just wrote him last night, I am going to organize all these questions into a coherent interview format and send to him this week. Great to see you over here again.

Neimad!

how have you been!!??

any news yet?

Yup, I've organized all the questions here into something resembling a coherent set of interview questions and sent them to Jack. He is in the process of getting his responses back to me, but I believe he is a bit busy amidst Holiday madness. Stay tuned, I won't forget about you neimad.

Sean

Did you ever get anything back from Mr. Johnston?

(bump)

Not yet, I think he's busy with some major changes to his website at the moment. He asked me to be patient for his response, so I just think he is a little swamped.

Sean

I'm thinking about just taking a leap and purchasing the program anyway.

It sounds interesting and the concept behind it, vibrational, appeals to me.... more so than hard plastic things in my asshole.


My girlfriend is having intense orgasms wave after wave and my only pleasure is to watch her, although it is pleasurable, I'd like to join in a little bit more.

Lasting isn't a problem.... but I'd like a little more......

What is your experience so far, Sean?

Hi Neimad,

Have you played with Dr Lin's finger pliars and his versions of CAT? (Coital Alignment Technique)

Lots of fun, I like his harmonic frequency / 70HZ wave theory thing, can't remember what it is called.

Yes I have.

As I said my girl is having lots of wonderful orgasms.... but the thing about Dr Lins stuff is it is essentially for the womans pleasure and the exercises for the man are to enable him to give those orgasms.

I have had simple genital orgasms without ejaculation, and on odd occassion when things happen to go right there is more to it... but those events are random, whereas my girls orgasms are frequent (every time) and I'd like to say I have the same going on too.

Jacks method, apart from the Aneros techniques, seems to be the only one out there really focused on increasing the male ability for orgasm.

Oh there is Mantak Chia's stuff, but he is crazy and I don't trust him or his teachings one bit.... not only that, they are overly complicated.

Good review of the method IMHO




I have an Aneros too......... it's actually quite fun

My experience is that I have ADD when it comes to consistency with sexual practices. About all I can get myself to stick with is meditation. I revisited this stuff though because I like chanting and was thinking maybe I could incorporate the keysound into my sitting practice "dry" like a mantra meditation and see what the results are.

Sean

I've even stopped meditating!

The best I can manage is an almost daily intu-flow practice.

Oh and when I have a proper CST style 'cycle' set up, I can usually follow that through to the end if it is a good one, too (usually about 28 days per 'goal').


But from what I take from the forum (the part I can access for free) it is advised to practice only for 20 minutes twice a week, not pushing too hard is really stressed.

I kinda like that.... 20 minutes twice a week, I can manage that.

What I am interested in are its results

I actually dusted off my clubbells today, did a couple swipes. Kinda fun. I wish Scott's approach didn't cheese grate on my nerves so much.

What bothers you so much about it?

It is a solid approach for eliciting change in the body.

I definitely like some of the practices and even methods. But either Scott's ego or their approach to marketing or a combination of both turn me off. Scott's thirty thousand titles repeated ludicrously, "International Champion Master Coach Scott Sonnon", etc. (every time, why?). The message is to get back to your original, intrinsic spontaneous flow, but then Scott tries to make every tweak on a BJJ warm up proprietary, puts a trademark on everything he touches -- The Path™ anyone? He gives himself meaningless over the top awards like "best guru of the internet" and the whole crew takes turns writing absurd heroic caricatures of each other. I tried to see past the presentation for awhile because his stuff is interesting but eventually it just totally killed my buzz. He tries to operate RMAX like a giant publicly traded corporation and puff up every little movement he makes when it's really just a small team. I think they'd get a lot more respect if they chilled, stopped being so cultish, just made cool shit and acted more humble and transparent. My two cents worth, there it is.

Sean

Sean,

I understand completely when you write about it like that.

But to be honest I have never even noticed any of these small quirks you have picked up on.... I just see good movement that I want to have and approach that makes it possible.




I don't know if you have ever got into the work of Dr. Hawkins with his calibrations of consciousness levels....

One of my friends originally trained in kineiosoloy has really been getting into it.

He calibrated the CST system at 500 (love).

Scott Sonnon he calibrated at around 460 or so (intellect and rational), which is about the same level I personally calibrate at also.


As for all the marketing and stuff, I am trying not to 'defend' any of it, but thats what this world is like now. If you have a product and want to both expose people to it and make money off it... you have to market it, and market it hard.
And people do, and will, steal anything that isn't nailed to the floor (I had my motorbike stolen about 3 weeks ago!).... and that includes concepts and ideas. Legal protection is about as close to nailing a floor as anyone seems able to get.

Not that I put much stock in intellectual property because there really is nothing new and never will be... especially not when it comes to the realms of human movement. There is only so much movement we can put our body in.
And not that I, or you, would consider stealing someone elses work and putting our names on it.... but that is because we act with integrity.
But there are many people who don't act with integrity and if one isn't careful all you end up with is pollution.

As for all his titles, or anyone elses titles, I've never paid any attention to that either and yes even if he didn't have a single title to his name it wouldn't bother me either..... but again there are people out there who do value it (for example the majority of the employers in the world) and without titles behind ones name, one lacks any credibility whatsoever, to those materialistic individuals......

But, as always, to each his own and we do what we like and what works for us. And if it doesn't.... we move on.

Yeah, I should get over it. I hang on to the weirdest stuff sometimes. Have you picked up the new Prasara book/DVD, actually looks pretty cool.

I've noticed iG forum is going bananas over calibration. Stephane calibrated me and Lezlie 496 so I guess we are all in about the same boat.

Sean

I got banned from IG.

I made some condescending remark about some of the follower mentality on the site when everyone was raving about some new post that Stephane had made.
It was a nice lesson for me to help realise that people are where they are, and some people probably have to hang on to someones coattails first to eventually gain their own independence.

I think humans have a sheep gene somewhere in our DNA.


I ordered the book and instructional DVD, yet to arrive.

Scott is getting real into adding healing visualizations into his Intu-Flow and Prasara work (he is going to release an Intu-Flow book soon too) and he is getting real 'spiritual' in his writings, which in my opinion was only a matter of time until it started occurring.

He is going to pull away from much active participation on the forum and going to reduce substantially the amount of DVD's he puts out (but he will work on books. He is working on a series of 7 books on health and fitness for children).

I know all these details because I made an investment and joined his "Core Cadre" (which I hope he will stop heavily promoting once it is full - 200 capacity)... which is where he is now going to focus all his efforts.


He has his work to do spiritually, as you and I do also..... but in his field, the human body, he is most certainly an expert and genius and I am happy to keep learning from him in that field..... oh and you have to admit he is getting pretty good at being a financial whiz too!

His "RESET" DVD is pretty cool. Really simple simple stuff, but he puts it together fantastically, and the results speak for themselves (if you are in to high intensity work).


Oh yeah and I managed to be lucky and find a girlfriend who is at 500.... well she got there with a little of my help

I still don't know if I believe any of that stuff, and I like to leave it that way.


Belief is a useless activity anyways.