AugustLeo
Dec 13 2007, 02:11 PM
According the the KunlunBliss.com website Max will be on the radio today:
"Max will be making a guest appearance in Maui, Hawaii on Liah Howard's Mind-Body-Spirit show: KAOI 1110 AM on Thursday Dec. 13 12:00-1:00 PM. View their site at
http://www.mindbodyspiritmaui.com "
I assume the time is Hawaii time. Apparently you can listen or download after the fact.
AugustLeo
cat
Dec 13 2007, 02:38 PM
That's good. Thankyou.
Yoda
Dec 13 2007, 03:06 PM
I *just* missed hearing it live!! I'll check in in a few days to listen in.
AugustLeo
Dec 14 2007, 02:42 PM
I've been checking the radio station website, and they haven't posted the mp3 of the interview with Max. I emailed the host Liah Howard this morning and still haven't received a reply (I think Hawaii is 5 hours earlier than Rhode Island).
Maybe Mantra68 can shed some light on this. Or maybe I should just be patient

!
AugustLeo
Yoda
Dec 14 2007, 03:31 PM
I'd imagine that it would be a few days. It sounds like the hostess is a practitioner in her own right. I'm excited to hear it too... I've heard it's Max talking about the importance of a low fat, low sugar vegetarian diet.
AugustLeo
Dec 16 2007, 06:40 AM
Max's radio interview is now available here:
Radio Interview
cat
Dec 16 2007, 09:30 AM
Thanks AugustLeo.
I will get to listen to it tomorrow. Looking forward to it.
Do you know if there is a way to save it as a file I could keep?
Trunk
Dec 16 2007, 09:34 AM
QUOTE(cat @ Dec 16 2007, 09:30 AM)

Do you know if there is a way to save it as a file I could keep?
Yeah, the "listen" button is a link to an mp3 file. (If you're on a pc,) Just right-click on the button and "save as".
cat
Dec 16 2007, 10:35 AM
Oh dear. What kind of fool am I.
thanks Trunk.
Yoda
Dec 16 2007, 03:45 PM
"You don't need a body... this is a downward flow practice."
What did he mean there, I wonder.
Sounds good though... whenever I

find myself sans body I can still rock on!
Wun Yuen Gong
Dec 16 2007, 04:01 PM
maybe he is talking about ascension breathing using prana?
cat
Dec 17 2007, 06:30 AM
QUOTE(Yoda @ Dec 16 2007, 11:45 PM)

"You don't need a body... this is a downward flow practice."
What did he mean there, I wonder.
Sounds good though... whenever I

find myself sans body I can still rock on!
interesting, that, wasnt it. 'you dont need a body.'
like - you dont need to contain the fire in sufficiently strong channels and be blockage free enough not to have to deal with it backing up in the system and causing problems?
( as you do with kundalini..)
Yoda
Dec 17 2007, 06:36 AM
QUOTE
like - you dont need to contain the fire in sufficiently strong channels and be blockage free enough not to have to deal with it backing up in the system and causing problems?
( as you do with kundalini..)
Interesting!
I totally suck at kundalini, so I'm glad there's a different game out there!
cat
Dec 17 2007, 06:51 AM
have you met Max yet, Yoda?
lady interviewing him seemed to me to be alittle high on his energy, d'you think?
he sure speakfast, dont he.
drew hempel
Dec 17 2007, 01:54 PM
I haven't listened yet as I don't have headphones provided yet but he means he transmits the energy. Either you tune into him by focusing on him and this creates a direct connection through the female formless awareness or in person he opens up your third eye. Sounds like he's not messing around! Master Chunyi Lin shot magnetic bliss-light into the center of my brain causing a permanent transformation but he did that only after I studied with him for about 6 months, doing intensive training.
After the third eye is open then it's just a matter of more energy build up to open up the brain further. I've found that holding the breath while in full-lotus is REALLY effective to open up the kundalini at the base of the spine. It's more of a central channel thing than using the right-side vagus nerve transduction which is more of an side-external channel thing.
The energy will just flow after the third eye is opened but to open up the third eye MORE FULLY than more energy needs to be charged up. That's the tricky part. haha.
Wun Yuen Gong
Dec 17 2007, 04:14 PM
Was very interesting interview with MAX, i dont understand if Kunlun is that strong why add Maoshan Red phoenix meds with it?
Yoda
Dec 17 2007, 08:04 PM
C-I saw him last month in Phoenix. He speaks quickquick!

I think his speech patterns come from spending a lot of time speaking Chinese combined with being jacked on Kunlun. I got the vibe that the interviewer had tried Kunlun and *liked* it.
DH-the 3rd eye/niwan is definitely his focus, but he doesn't seem to make the connection to the kundalini process
WYG- Max's Red Phoenix doesn't refer to an herb, it's a complimentary practice to Kunlun.
drew hempel
Dec 17 2007, 08:11 PM
Well he has a chapter on sex energy in his book. Haven't you read it? Maybe you can share! haha.
The bliss needs to be cultivated afterwards or it can be lost just like sex energy. He's just making a permanent connection so people can always open up the 3rd eye channel -- whether a person stores it up for stronger energy is based on the type of practice. If he's having people SPIRAL THEIR HIPS then he's obviously aware of opening up the small of the back for the kundalini energy to rise up. He's just adding to that energy. I'm sure that he takes in people's lower emotion energy and then transforms in his body as bliss-light and then shoots it back into people. That's how the 3rd eye cycles the natural resonance.
Oolong Rabbit
Dec 17 2007, 08:26 PM
QUOTE(drew hempel @ Dec 18 2007, 12:11 AM)

Well he has a chapter on sex energy in his book. Haven't you read it? Maybe you can share! haha.
The bliss needs to be cultivated afterwards or it can be lost just like sex energy. He's just making a permanent connection so people can always open up the 3rd eye channel -- whether a person stores it up for stronger energy is based on the type of practice. If he's having people SPIRAL THEIR HIPS then he's obviously aware of opening up the small of the back for the kundalini energy to rise up. He's just adding to that energy. I'm sure that he takes in people's lower emotion energy and then transforms in his body as bliss-light and then shoots it back into people. That's how the 3rd eye cycles the natural resonance.
I don't know Drew. He is pretty adamant that Kunlun is NOT Kundalini energy. They keep saying that Kundalini rises upward whereas Kunlun flows downward. That having been said, it still FEELS like upward flowing energy to me.
drew hempel
Dec 17 2007, 08:45 PM
Well maybe the Kunlun energy is HIS energy -- or what he channels through his masters, etc. His secret lineage. That's definitely the case with qigong master Chunyi Lin. The more respect you have for the teacher the quicker the results but this is paradoxical because it also means the more self-discipline you have. Basically there's a feedback with the teacher this way -- but the source, the direction, the goal -- is a "higher frequency" or a "more intense" energy to try to put it in Westernized terms.
The environment is very important. It's very easy to get attacked as being too self-righteous, too pure, etc. for having say a special diet -- or especially being celibate. Then of course there's people being attracted to your energy and having them wig out about it and then having to transform that reaction.
It's all a matter of if you can ride the tiger so to speak -- stay focused on the female formless awareness -- in order to keep taking in the teacher's energy.
The issue of being in a cult is always in issue. Culture vs. a cult. As qigong master Chunyi Lin states -- most of us can't be professional meditators.
Well we can sure try. haha.
That's why I've read one book a day for the past 7 years. How can someone claim I'm in a cult if I read so many different writers, etc.? The fact is someone will find SOME excuse to attack you for transformation of energy.
This is why I rely on the full-lotus. It gets results quick. The teacher's energy is to be called on for sure but I think there needs to be a personal connection for it to be strong.
A teacher can focus on only so many students. Qigong master Chunyi Lin has taught tens of thousands of people.
The bigger an audience at one time the more energy that can be transformed by the teacher.
But that's just one setting. Afterwards everyone goes home and most people don't keep practicing.
This is why it's so important to follow the practice strictly. Each practice is geared towards the specific teachers energy focus.
I just stick with the full-lotus.
Mal
Dec 17 2007, 10:07 PM
QUOTE(drew hempel @ Dec 18 2007, 02:45 PM)

I just stick with the full-lotus.
Hi Drew,
Is there a "Full Lotus for Dummies"
I checked out the site you suggested a few weeks back, the $3 tapes looked great. I was going to get one but I have discovered that all my tape players have died from lack of use
I didn't notice anything specific on the lotus posture so was not too sure what to look for. My problem with the full lotus is trying to bend myself into it, my lower body flexability is poor, even a half lotus is very uncomfortable aster a few seconds.
I'd probably be better off dusting of Kurtz and doing some stretches. The lotus is really a "cool if I could do this" thing for me, not sure how to actually "use" it.
Mal
Dec 18 2007, 05:49 PM
Just popped the interview into my MP3 player last night.
It was very cool to hear Max AND Chris. Inspirational. I want to experience these 5 levels of Bliss and I'm actually intrested in Red Phoenix now.
I need to read my .sig and FEEL
.....
I must say that the lady was very nice during the interview, but if I had to listen to 1 more advertisement in that voice giving out a phonenumber I would have been going postal. Was that Max laughing in the background a few times

My MP3 player is cheap and a bit "tricky" to fast forward.
Wun Yuen Gong
Dec 18 2007, 07:01 PM
LOL Chris needs to take some more drugs cause he didnt sound to with it in that interview!

ITS IN MY HEAD???? WTF
sean
Dec 18 2007, 07:37 PM
QUOTE(Wun Yuen Gong @ Dec 18 2007, 07:01 PM)

LOL Chris needs to take some more drugs cause he didnt sound to with it in that interview!

ITS IN MY HEAD???? WTF

Hey WYG, why don't you just put in your forum signature that you are skeptical of Kunlun, think their marketing is over the top, that your questions have not been answered yet, whatever, etc, etc. Just lay out your whole schtick preferably minus the sarcasm and snarkiness. I estimate it would save you from making about 95% of your posts and us from having to read the same content-less potshots over and over.
Sean
bindo
Dec 18 2007, 08:06 PM
QUOTE(sean @ Dec 18 2007, 07:37 PM)

Hey WYG, why don't you just put in your forum signature that you are skeptical of Kunlun, think their marketing is over the top, that your questions have not been answered yet, whatever, etc, etc. Just lay out your whole schtick preferably minus the sarcasm and snarkiness. I estimate it would save you from making about 95% of your posts and us from having to read the same content-less potshots over and over.
Sean
THANK YOU SEAN!!! Irritating, isn't it?
vortex
Dec 18 2007, 08:25 PM
QUOTE(Wun Yuen Gong @ Dec 18 2007, 09:01 PM)

ITS IN MY HEAD???? WTF

He said he was "stuck in his head" - a very common stumbling block for logical gents. Nothing too trippy there...
Are you sure you're not on drugs?
drew hempel
Dec 18 2007, 08:34 PM
Yeah to get into full-lotus you need to keep the energy channels open. I usually have to do half lotus a few minutes in the morning. The small universe practice is really the best way to open up the energy channels -- combined with standing exercises, just a simple tai chi movement for example. This is the Spring Forest Qigong system that Chunyi Lin designed. Anyone can practice it. After that it's emotion and nutrition cycling which is always fun! haha. I don't practice a "spiritual" bigu diet -- one meal of veggies a day -- so I'm always cycling a lot of bad nutrition but lower emotions (bad) are actually just other peoples' extra energy that also is then cycled into bliss-light through the pineal gland. Have fun.
QUOTE(Mal @ Dec 17 2007, 10:07 PM)

Hi Drew,
Is there a "Full Lotus for Dummies"
I checked out the site you suggested a few weeks back, the $3 tapes looked great. I was going to get one but I have discovered that all my tape players have died from lack of use
I didn't notice anything specific on the lotus posture so was not too sure what to look for. My problem with the full lotus is trying to bend myself into it, my lower body flexability is poor, even a half lotus is very uncomfortable aster a few seconds.
I'd probably be better off dusting of Kurtz and doing some stretches. The lotus is really a "cool if I could do this" thing for me, not sure how to actually "use" it.
Wun Yuen Gong
Dec 18 2007, 08:49 PM
Sean,
HAHAHAH thanks but no thanks, i ask some straight up questions which havent been answered. I know people that know max and his training past, not all as it seems. But hey ill let you all jump on his bandwagon but as a forum and YES i appreciate you letting me post my concerns or thoughts to be better word on what i know and see. That is what the forum is for RIGHT?
Why doesnt there website have there own forum???

I understand they are milking this site and others to get there message across and make money off the suckers that is fine. Let me say im not the only one that feels like this on this forum i wont mention any names but i do enjoy the forum and most of the people even if they dont like me. Maybe im too straight forward and dont believe everything that people post but ill do my best not to piss you all off. I just find its all too much from these Kunlun guys as you find im too much.
Drugs, i wish i was on them might be able to connect to Max and Gong Sau see if the skills really work?
enough of my rant!
WYG
Just for the record im not skeptical of any practices they all lead to the same place if one understands the correct methods!
Ill back off i promise ive said my piece!
Thankyou
cat
Dec 19 2007, 06:08 AM
Drew I'd really like to know what you get, when you listen to the kunlun radio interview.
I def get a 3rd eye movement and opening and an intelligent seneitive healing, from listening to Max.
From your last post,Drew, I got a very strong transmission that went into my heart. I dont have time to meditate right now, but your post generated an immediate energy shift in me that invited meditation. Your posts always generate an inner smile and becalmed energised state in me.
Yoda
Dec 19 2007, 01:27 PM
Drew,
I agree with Cat that you have a great vibe and a great message. It's great to have you on the forum!
Your pal,
Yoda
dakini
Dec 20 2007, 01:12 AM
QUOTE(Wun Yuen Gong @ Dec 18 2007, 07:01 PM)

LOL Chris needs to take some more drugs cause he didnt sound to with it in that interview!

ITS IN MY HEAD???? WTF

Who bought this monkey a computer?
drew hempel
Dec 20 2007, 01:25 PM
Just finished the radio talk. It was hilarious. I'm sitting in full-lotus. My energy is building up. The young African-American female next to me turns towards me and looks in my eyes -- I shoot bliss-light into her and we both smile big blissful smile. Then Max states this is an eye-to-eye transmission. I'm like yep. Then she does it again and and we have an "O at a D" - after staring into each others eyes, right when Max is talking about the bliss is like an orgasm. Then she actually puts on porn and on the video this lady is singing while this big African-American stud is doing the various positions with her. My new friend wants me to watch it so I can shoot my yang bliss-light into her. We keep this up as I'm listening to Max. haha. Finally to our right this old African-American dude notices and my new friend and I just start giggling. We had another "O at a D" after about 45 minutes of full-lotus on my part.
haha.
Yeah what Max is doing is exactly what I inferred from how you all described it and I had posted previously up above.
Wun Yuen Gong
Dec 20 2007, 01:37 PM
WTF????
And you say i over react with my postings????

Oh well.....
PORN, MAX, LAMA DORJE, things are getting very weird and interesting?!!!
sean
Dec 20 2007, 02:16 PM
WYG, even in your post above you still got your potshots in, accusing people of coming here to get rich off Kunlun and that members drawn to Kunlun are all suckers. Can you understand why you are annoying people that are not even into Kunlun?
I really do hope that you mean it when you say that you've said your piece and can drop your anti-agenda, because from my perspective it's way more driven than anyone's supposed promotional agenda. I also think you consistently underestimate the sophistication of the members here and their ability to intelligently make up their own minds about what they practice and what is working for them. If you go back and read the first big topic about Kunlun you will see that most members here tactfully discussed critiques of Kunlun from various angles. And as far as I can tell the members here that are exploring Kunlun practice more deeply are doing so because the practice is creating meaningful transformation in their lives.
If you have direct experience with Kunlun practice, or for some reason feel that you have a more advanced understanding of certain dangers or pitfalls to Kunlun practice you are welcome to bring these up constructively in a non-spammy, non thread-derailing way. But I am wary to even suggest this though because frankly I sense that your distaste for Kunlun uproots you and irritates your intentions and is causing you to project that irritating energy back out. I think we all have reactions like this to certain teachers/teachings. In my experience it pays more to work on these personal issues and get to a point where you at least OK with what your are resisting before repeatedly offering criticisms. Otherwise what you say is so clearly filled with personal emotional agenda it's worse than useless.
Best,
Sean
[edit] Ugghhh... Alright WYG, you made the above post while I was writing this one. You are just not getting it and I'm sorry but you are like 30 seconds away from being banned. This is your last warning.
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