During the MP3 Radio interview Max spoke briefly about human psychic abilities coming from outside our normal genetics or something to that effect. Anybody know if he subscribes to the alien interbreeding thing with humans or was he talking about something else?

It was a good listen overall, bTW.

I would imagine that Max believes that the spacemen fucked the monkeys. Makes sense to me!

Over 100 view and one response? I am not making fun of Max. In my opinion us humans just aint right and being alien hybrids is as good a theory as any.

He talked about Reptilians at the SF workshop...but I wasn't there, so don't know exactly what he said.

I personally do believe we are all alien hybrids, basically originally created as a slave race.

Hi Darin. I think most of us did not talk to Max about alien cause we needed that time to focus on kunlun 1 and related materials. And alien stuff is sideshow stuff that we did not have time for. Your subject head got my attention and interest but I have nothing but my own opinion on it.

Did not South Park did an episode on it with Tom Cruise and Scientilogy?? And I think Elfquest covered that possibility too. This is fun stuff to ponder.

It's my impression that that is too much of a sidetrack for Max's classes, but I'm definitely a believer in something along those lines.

Here is my take.

1. If your really,really,really,really interested in this subject bring it up with Max if and when you get to do a private talk with him.

I did.

2. This is really an area where a private Kunlun forum would be better. To be totally honest this issue was never a big deal for me. I presumed we live in this huge universe there must be intelligent life elsewhere. But I think connecting with Max and his lineage more or less has made me more interested or aware.

I won't get into details. I "accidently" found a video of another Michigan native who has had alot of experiences along these lines. I have seen interesting things in the sky over Arizona that I either didn't notice or wasn't percieving before I met Max.

Again, if all of the sudden people on TB's who see Max start having these wild experiences I think at that point either one of us or Mantra would just need to consider making a private,closed, members only forum to discuss things.

Not as an elitist thing but just to protect peoples privacy. TB's is wide open to the world here you know.

It doesn't look like it has gotten anywhere near that point yet but if in a year from now people are making posts about the alien lady who visited there job intersted in Kunlun(or possibly just an old hippie escorted by Men in Black as Sean Omlor suggested) or seeing interestingly shaped lights in the sky that appear to be flashing them as they are trying to enjoy there cigarette outside that might be the time for us to get a more priviate convo going.

Again, really not my bag. Interesting sure. Am I open to learning more? Sure. But it needs to be balanced and people need to realize discression is important sometimes.

Cam

word.

i think i'm a human/supercat hybrid. i love staying up all night and i'm lazy as hell. i'd definetely lick myself if i could too.

i have a theory that Bush is a shapeshifting dog and that dogs are taking over the world.

The other side of the issue is even if we were created by another race or whether we all came through a black hole from a distant constellation called Lyra or we are from mars and blew ourselves up and moved here or we were all spirit and came here millions of years ago and got stuck here.

Whatever the actual truth ends up being probably spirit and matter have been doing there thing here so long it's not that big a deal. Like..maybe you were an alien lord in a past life and after dying when you were 2000 years old you got reincarnated as a cripple kid with parents that beat you to pay for your karma.

There is a "big picture" involved to, you know?

It would be funny if we ended up being some super uber genius races "science experiment" and they came back after a million years and were like "holy shit."

I like the highly evolved beings who somehow got stuck in a more limited, dense form over humans being created to be a slave race myself.

Also, can you really lump all human beings in the same group? There are alot of different humans on Earth. Maybe each group has there own unique history and unique ties to unique alien races .That would atleast make sense when you look at all the diversity of language, religions etc.

Ok, here is a nice story. I like this story alot better than the slave race story.

It talks about how human life was created in Lyra. I presume lots of wars happened, we are supposed to evolve spiritualy but get caught in the materialistic trap, yada, yada, yada.


http://nibiruancouncil.com/html/humans.html

Oh, this is fun.

It sounds like from this article, this whole universe is a "polarity game" that we are playing.

If you believe this stuff, the reptillians are also Hybrids. They were created by a race called "Carians" who mixed there DNA with Serpent/Snake DNA. And yes, it says that the Royal House of reptillians are the Draconans(A Hybrid Carian and reptillian/a snake with wings/Dragon etc).

Humans are really,really intersting .This article says that humans are a mix of several races.

" On our earth, the Third Earth, it was a combination of Feline, Carian, Reptilian and Human DNA. The Human DNA came from Avyon, in the Pleiades, which was the Second Earth"

Where the conflict sems to arise(if you beleive in this sort of stuff) is the Reptillians were told by there creators-The Carians/bird people-that they had the right to conquer and dominate any planet.

Humans were told by there creators-The Lion People, or The Felines-that they were to help any planet they lived on and live in harmony with other races..and the "higher purpouse" of humans was to help other races become more compassionate.

Soooooo...yeah...I thought Dungeons and Dragons and video games were fun

I don't mean to be a smart ass but may I ask why do you think" humans ain't right"?

Its like Agent Smith said, every other creature lives in perfect harmony with the earth but us. I dont see us as a virus but as a species we seem to always strive to be more than we are. Its like we are either incomplete or fallen from a higher state and are trying to regain what we have lost.

So Max might believe in Reptilians? If he does, I wonder if he thinks the Greys and Reptilians are working together and we're totally screwed or they are the original super powers in a cold war with us humans as middle man and we're just mostly screwed.

I am pretty sure he thinks there are "good guy" reptillians and the situation(IF it is true)is not as black and white as you are making it.

Read the article I posted. It's got alot of interesting stuff on there. For one, it says people need to get it out of there mind that all reptillians are evil and all humans are good.

I have no idea what of any of this is true..but I like that axiom "As above so below" so if you take our own world as a model..are things so black and white and simple here on Earth?

No..things are complicated as shit here.

So..my guess is if you have this huge variety of "good" and "bad" and somewhere between good and bad, or niether good nor bad, neutral, not yet decided figuring stuff out, enlightened, ignorant, highly power focused, highly compassion focused etc etc all living under the same roof.

My guess is that is probably how it works in other places also. Of course maybe there are enlightened civilizations where you have billions of enlightened people living and working together..supposedly the Andrometans are like that..who knows.

This stuff is all in your mind. If you see the challenges here as being a good challenge to your spirit rather than going into victim mode you could maybe grow more than some being who lives on a paradise somewhere and doesn't have any problems.

The fact that anyone would put themselves in victim mode with some alien race "out there" trying to manipulate them is a sign of still not seeing the "big picture" I think.

If you realize the higher spiritual truths-I am not fully there yet but working on it-I think you start to see any external manifestations of spirit(and it is all fundamentally Spirit, yes?) as merely different varieties of ones own mind. The ignorant animal, the fighting demon, the human being, the deva, the enlightened being.

Not to mention(and I have no clue is it is true-that article says we are a mix of all 4-Carian,Reptillian, Feline and Human. So IF there is any truth to that we have the whole mix. We are like a pizza with everything on top(If that article is true).

Again, no clue if that is true or some Dungeons and Dragons fantasy but when you look at how compassionate a human can be(Mother Theresa, Thich Nhat Han. Buddhas and Bodhisstavas) and then you look at how destructive and controlling a human can be(Hitler,Stalin, making eachother slaves based on skin color etc) then it does make one wonder how such a huge variety of behavior exists in the same species.

Humans always want more, more

I believe that in general we did fell from a higher spiritual state into a lower one wich is more materialistic, certainly here in the west.

A link with the atroposophy thread pops up where there is mentioning of Ahriman who tries to bind humandkind towards the earth (most of our technology is made from plastic and metal wich comes from the earth) and thus holding us more and more away from spititual development, wich is yust a way of putting it.

Im not stepping into the aliendiscussion as its a sensitive subject (ow and im being slapped around my head with them continously by some friends of me who dont talk about anything else )

Regards !

I believe it happened (sort of) in the opposite direction. We were in a lower state (lower meaning more earthy, lower dan tien, less individual, more infinite) and came up to a higher state (higher into our heads, developed individuality became very finite).

note that there is no connotation of lower = bad and higher = good or visa versa.

We used to be much more connected to the earth and its resources, not really identifying ourselves as separate from it and from our 'tribe'. There was a study done on amazonian tribes where they tried to teach them maths (counting in descreet individual units) - the amazonians couldn't do it, and couldn't learn to do it - you'd give them 5 apples and they couldn't count them, or even have a concept of them as individual discreet, separate objects.

so it's no surprise that our head based culture that is focused on separateness and individuality invented a language that is binary and static. (Taomeow would have some very interesting things to add here, I'm sure)

So when we were in the lower realm we had less of an individual will and intent, now that we have this individual will, we have less connection to the non-individual, eternalness that was available in the lower realm.

I believe that our challenge is to take this finite individuality and take this infinite connectedness and get them mating... and this is where the middle realm comes in - it's in between finite (upper) and infinite (lower) and the result of the mating of those is something like Love...

aliens and stuff are the result of the dance of the finite mind meeting with the infinite belly...

Yeh freeform, lets me think about Jean Gebser's ever present origin :/

1. The archaic structure
2. The magic structure
3. The mythical structure
4. The mental structure
5. The integral stage

Forget what i said above, i got some serieus thinking to do it seems lol.

Though not now, moon is at 91% and its the most YIN day of the year.

Tonight strange things happen. Im so exited

ciao

No its not its the most yang day of the year-a voice from the deep deep south

Possible im the last to argue over details .. to me it feels like the most yin day of the year yust because winter starts (cold, dark) the night (dark, black) is the longest of the year and the day (light, white) is the shortest.

Where allready setting up for tonight, im anxious

If I recall correctly Seadog is in Aus too, i.e. southern hemisphere.

So you are both right