I do White Crane but it is not from Taiwan. We have all the sleeping, jumping, eating, and calling crane in our system. I think there were one more in there but I forget. Where are you studying your??

It is interesting and there is quite of bit of historical research going on about the origins of the many Crane Boxing systems. One thing that is of particular interest is that it seems fairly solid that Wing Chun (the Bruce Lee/Yip Man art) is a branch of Crane Boxing. And if you look at the Crane Boxing hand sets it is quite obvious that there is a common origin.

In 1644 AD, the Manchurian tribe had invaded China and defeated the Ming dynasty rulers. Ming loyalist, nobles and soldiers, escaped and went south. As pointed by the Wushu historian Salvatore Canzonieri, many of this rebels relocated in the The Honan Shaolin. The Ching rulers discovered the temple was a focus of resistance and they burned Songshan Shaolin in 1768.

After the destruction of the temple many of the Chu family and other nobles and also many Shaolin monks from Honan moved to the South Shaolin temples (Fujian and Jian Shi). The Chu Gar style legend mentions Tang Chan, (his real name was Chu Fook Too or Chu Fook To), who belonged to the Ming Imperial court (1) as one of this rebels that emigrated to the Southern temples.

At the Fujian temple (located in the Nine Little Lotus Mountains) the monks and rebels shortened the time it took to master the boxing styles from 10 years to 3 years with the purpose of train quickly the fighters to overthrow the Ching rulers and restore the Ming dynasty. The Chu Gar legend says that Chu Fook Too became abbot in the Fujian temple and changed his name to "Tung Sim" (anguish) due to his deep anguish and hatred for the Ching's reign of terror and suffering. In the style's legend he was the person that developed the Southern Praying Mantis style.

The monks (or Chu Fook Too himself) developed kung fu fighting styles that were faster to learn, based on close range fighting, designed to defeat a martial art skilled opponent (Manchu soldiers and Imperial Guard) with fast, powerful chains of attacks that left no time for counter-attacks. If we take as an example of those styles the Southern Praying Mantis one, we will see that it is a way of boxing developed with one purpose in mind: destroying the enemy. Restore the Ming; overthrow the Ching, was the primary purpose of the Southern Praying Mantis and the slogan of the day. It was violence of the Manchu rulers as they hunted down and destroyed revolutionaries of the Ming dynasty that caused Southern Praying Mantis to develop into a direct, deadly fighting style --- destroy the enemy before being destroyed. Some of the Fujian styles were actually used in battles against the Manchu and also in the Boxer Rebellion, and many of the southern styles originated from this common root, for example:

* Wu Zu Quan or Go Cho Kune (Five Ancestors Boxing)
* Yong Chun Quan (Wing Chun)
* Fujian Bai He Quan (Fujian White Crane Boxing)
* Bak Mei (White Eyebrow)
* Lung Ying (Dragon boxing)
* and the styles we are interested in, known with the generic name of Southern Praying Mantis.

Some of these styles are so technically related that seem to be just variations of each other with different legends about their origins. There is not to much difference between most of these southern styles, the differences are small and they share lots of technical similarities, for example the starting stance, chain punches, rounded shoulders stances, elbows kept close to the body protecting the ribs, tight stance protecting the groin, the use of whipping power, the use of phoenix eye fist (except for dragon style).

Against this theory of the common root in the Shaolin Fujian temple, I was told that Sifu Chueng Lai Chuen (Bak Mei master), Sifu Lam Yuei Kwai (Lung Ying Pai) and Sifu Lao Sui (Chu Gar/Chow Gar Gao) used to visit the same master in a tea house in Hong Kong in the late 40's. That would suggest all this new branches were originated in the XX century. In addition, some Lung Ying practitioners say that Bak Mei is just Lung Ying with a nice legend Sifu Chung Lai Chuen attached to this new style to differentiate it from the original one. This theory would easily explain the similarities of this styles, but it is difficult to explain such an amount of differences in just one generation. That is the reason I tend to think the most appropriate theory is the one that establishes that this styles have a common root, but they have been differentiating each other with the transmission from generation to generation during centuries.

Of course there are differences. When we talk particularly about the Southern Praying Mantis, the Hakka Southern mantis looks a lot closer to the Wu Zu Quan (Go Chu Kune) root than the Southern mantis that comes from Chu Gar and Jook Lum. Southern mantis looks like a refined version of the Wu Zu Quan movements. At the same time, the stances, footwork and weighting are different when we compare the Jook Lum to the Chu Gar. Many times it has been said that Fujian Bai He Quan (Fujian White Crane Boxing) and Wu Zu Quan are the origin of the Japanese Karate. It is true that Wu Zu Quan style has exactly the same Sanchin form that the Uechi Ryu and Goju Karate styles (with some differences in the tension, and the Chinese version includes two-man version). But Uechi Ryu has a form called Som Bo Gin (Three Arrow Fist), the most famous southern praying mantis form, and both form have similar movements and also the Uechi Ryu foot movements mimic those of Southern Mantis. In addition most Okinawan and Japanese forms follow the same numerology, such as, San Chin Kata (3 steps), Seipa Kata (18), Sanseiru kata (36) and Pechurin Kata (108). May be these similarities between Karate and Southern Mantis are due to the common origin in the Fujian temple, but may be was Southern Praying Mantis, and not Wu Zu Quan the style that originated the Okinawan Karate...

The relation, or should be better to say the lack of relationship between Northern Mantis and Southern Mantis is similar to the Fujian White Crane and Tibetan White Crane. They seem to have absolutely nothing in common but the name. Why the southern style took the Praying Mantis name will be discussed later.

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