Hey guys,

Funny what you find roaming about on the net. I came across a new website offering to sell an 18 minute DVD of paranormal phenomenon - like that of the John Chang video - and interviews with masters or those who personally know them (I assume), with the additional possibility of studying with a level four (Mo Pai) adept and student of Shifu Wang Liping; and with further additional good fortune, the possibility of meeting and studying with the good master himself, Shifu Wang Liping, all for the low price of 200 Euro (for the first ten customers). Sounds vaguely familiar, huh?

Here is the link:

http://www.thunderpath.de/index-english.php

It seems to be run by this gentleman:

http://www.seros.de/ressourcen/seminare/nlp_trainer.html

http://www.seros.de/index2.html

Anyone know this guy or these people?

I wonder if Shifu Wang Liping is aware of how many people are attempting to make money of his name? The current Shifu Wang Liping immortals craze in western Taoist circles reminds me of the Babaji obsession of the Kriya yoga people of Yogananda and the western kundalini yoga aspirants back in the 90's. So many cashing in.

In kind regards,

Adam.

Already a post on the foundation board addressing the veracity of this...or lack thereof

This guy could be a class example of someone with a complete lack of ethics.

Together with David's approach with "traditionaltao", I agree.

Not really comparable that much. David is allowed to teach what he does, this guy isn't.

The main reason I'm turned off by this website is the total lack of info. Even the "about us" tab doesn't lead anywhere, so why should anyone trust them? Traditionaltao at least backs up their page with some credentials. I advise everyone to keep your 200 euros...

Isn't David's most advanced student from Denmark? Is it her website? The video is probably a copy of the DVD Cristy Elmendorp of Rare Journeys made. I think David wouldn't allow her to release it publicly.

Still ya gotta love the sales pitch:

"For the first time the doors open! How long they remain opened however, is uncertain. It seems that these remain accessible only a few years!"

It sounds like something right out of an informercial. Act now....don't delay....Limited time only.

No, the name of the student you're thinking of is Jette. And the person from this is site is a guy.

How do you know it's a guy? I took the sig at the bottom "Stefan Strecker" to be the web designer.

Because of this:



Plus, Jette has her own site.

lol pero, you edited and said what I just said, almost

It's all very interesting indeed...

Oolong. Whatever we both deal with. Your approach is one of a kind

Girls and guys. Keep the 200 Euros for yourself. The most funniest part of it all is:

>>ORDER

The fate does show everyone if she or he is selected or not. In order not to overflow neither the teacher nor the student group, I decided not to offer more than 100 interested students full access. After that, there will be only the DVD available - without contact possibilities.<<



Harry

Actually I hit the reply button, but it didn't make separate posts.
(I just edited to add "Because of this:")

The person who is doing this has been simply using David Verdesi's way of marketing. I mean just look at the phrasing:

"For the first time the doors open! How long they remain opened however, is uncertain. It seems that these remain accessible only a few years!"

If I wouldn't know the source of this ad, I could easily be fooled that it was put out by one of David Verdesi's students or him himself.

Obviously somebody is trying to cash in on the hype around immortals and "unique" opportunities to get to them.

But this is what you get when you put a price tag on Dao and immortality selling them without clearly stating your credentials and instead just luring people with sweet promises and big claims. You open a can of worms, because others will imitate you.

The situation is actually quite amusing.

Seems like David Verdesi and this guy could give financial seminars on scamming people with big dreams and little scrutiny.

Hah

Where did you see the discussion? Didn't they make the board paying member only?

Wasnt really too much of a discussion...and students dont have to pay for forum access.

Too bad it doesnt teach the first 4 levels i would have considered buying it for the sake of collecting material!

Unless someone here like to share the levels???

This is a short video that is an interview of Mr. David Verdesi.

It shows a demonstration and talk by one of Mr. David Verdesi teachers in Thailand - with some demonstration of their "paranormal" powers such as guessing the proper number that is written on a peice of paper held behind one's back, to change the taste or water with Qi, and to have one of the students give a Qi, "shock" to a member of the audience.

It shows the said teacher giving a healing treatment where he uses the Tui-Na method of "Baguan" to draw blood from the patient - this is looked at as drawing stagnat blood and Qi, and various other.

The Baguan method is also sometimes known as "cupping" in the west, and is a glass or plastic cup that is applied with a suction force to various places - usually on the back.

It is a short DVD, and shows no practice and method - it is just mostly filmed about the brief visit to Thailand by Mr. David Verdesi teacher.

Thanks for quenching our curiosity, DZ. I hope you didn't pay full price for that video...

Actually I think that's not this video. The video Dao Zhen is talking about is the one that was being sold on foundation forum for a while. This seems nothing like it.

I would be suprised if it wasnt that same video wich also takes about 18-19 minutes and shows whats mentioned by dao zhen .. mainly healings and also making a fire as written on this new website that is selling the vid.

It likely is the mentioned video, but does it really matter?

The situation is taken care of



Hary

lol I like how you guys defend David Verdesi as if he doesn't have the exact same approach - hahahahaha!

It is pretty simple Chanwu. The approach just not is the same



Harry

Oh but it is, and the reason why you're not seeing it clearly is because you are too into it, too excited and too loyal to someone who is not loyal to you.

My first post on this forum explains a lot and describes all the things I have taken notice of while reading through posts here.

I have inside information about David too that would blow your mind if you knew what is awaiting you, not only of the practises but other details too. But that is already saying too much, and it's frustrating that I can't give out this information to avoid other people getting dragged into this, those who's names shouldn't be tainted by these matters.

It's all about the money.

The guy on the homepage, I wouldn't be surprised if it was David, not at all, not with the things I know in mind.

I feel sorry for you that you feel so bad that you can not share the information you know would help so many to be saved from serious trouble.

I hope you will get permission to share so that everyone can benefit and you can enlighten the blind.

no sarcasm intended



Harry

The guy wh's selling the David Verdesi website alsonruns the seros. de website. On it he'ss selling a myriad of products on how to pick up women using NLP. A Germany copy cat of the Mystery, Style (Neil Strauss The Game) and the like.
His DVD marketing page looks like text book internet marketing. I wonder how long it will take him to offer Kun Lun DVDs and books? :-)

It seems inevitable that predators like this guy will appear as soon as previously esoteric practices moves out into the public awareness. What strikes me is that he seems to be really worthless at NLP as well. His sites reads more like the leaflets I get from my local pizzerias than as something written by someone who has studied the art of how to affect others on the subliminal level. But maybe I missed the more sublime cues? ;-)

Ah the power people have over those that are not rooted.

Sad really.

I will be standing in Wuji for 20 years on top of a mountain. When I return I will show you my power and will charge you $10,000 USD (for something you can achieve by yourselves anyway, ) to be as powerful as I am.

LOL!