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Optionsman
Hello All, new to the forum. I didn’t know specifically where to go to ask this question so I thought I would start here and maybe someone can point me the best thread. I have been practicing Qi Gong for a couple of years studying Spring Forest Qi Gong, Master Chun Lee Lynn so I certainly understand the power of Qi energy properly directed.
Several years ago I was astonished watching a show called Real Sex on HBO. One of the segments was on a specific energy healer who would do some kind of dancing palms meditation over the pelvic area of a number of fully clothed random women who would come in lay down and subject themselves to this energy. In less than a minute each one would experience very powerful orgasms without touching or being touched by anything but the Qi focused through his hand and directed by his mind.
Does anyone know where this technique is taught or where I can find more information on how it is done?
Yoda
Welcome to taobums!

nityama.com and http://www.thetaobums.com/Tantric-Mongoose-t4860.html seems to be a sex specific practice like what you are saying. There are more vids if you sign up on the sight. I don't know anything of the practice other than that Nityama was a student of Osho. If you aren't in Australia or can't make it to their Chicago program, take a look at kunlunbliss.com and get the book. Kunlun isn't sex specific, but can be used in the same way. I've been doing Kunlun for 3 months and haven't developed the O-Ray yet, but I'm working on it! laugh.gif
Optionsman
QUOTE(Optionsman @ Feb 27 2008, 06:48 PM) *

Hello All, new to the forum. I didn’t know specifically where to go to ask this question so I thought I would start here and maybe someone can point me the best thread. I have been practicing Qi Gong for a couple of years studying Spring Forest Qi Gong, Master Chun Lee Lynn so I certainly understand the power of Qi energy properly directed.
Several years ago I was astonished watching a show called Real Sex on HBO. One of the segments was on a specific energy healer who would do some kind of dancing palms meditation over the pelvic area of a number of fully clothed random women who would come in lay down and subject themselves to this energy. In less than a minute each one would experience very powerful orgasms without touching or being touched by anything but the Qi focused through his hand and directed by his mind.
Does anyone know where this technique is taught or where I can find more information on how it is done?


Thank You!
mwight
I am able to alter peoples emotional states by force of will, without saying anything I can turn anger into sadness, or depression into happiness. But this has been a useful skill with dealing with my unstable family members, I have been working on it for some time.


Also...

I am a little ashamed of myself, but I have self developed and perfected a similar skill to the orgasm one you speak about. I don't give orgasms without touch, but I can project sexual desire as an emotion into others. Perhaps I could share some insights smile.gif
Adam West
Wow Mwight - that's pretty amazing! What do you attribute the development of such an ability to? I wonder what other weird and wonderful things you can do?? tongue.gif

In kind regards,

Adam.
Yoda
Strong emotional focus does have a strong influence on others.
mwight
QUOTE(Adam West @ Feb 29 2008, 05:36 AM) *

Wow Mwight - that's pretty amazing! What do you attribute the development of such an ability to? I wonder what other weird and wonderful things you can do?? tongue.gif

In kind regards,

Adam.



Well mostly this came as a need to stop violent situations with my relatives, I just finally got fed up and decided to attempt to feel their emotions as energy and forcibly remove them, and drain them, then replace them with something better.

I was doing this automatically when I was a child even before I had ever heard of qigong, or what not.

Also It isn't an instant thing, and I wouldn't be able to talk to them or do anything else why focusing on it.

This skill revolves around extreme empathy, feeling the world through their body, forcibly draining negative emotions as if they were a sticky fluid, and replacing with a better emotion.

It isn't something really I would want to do constantly, it is a huge drain on me on all levels. The biggest thing is to remain absolutely calm and disconnected and in a mild trance type state while doing it. A deeper trance would be more effective but impractical in such situations.


Also as to the sexual part, my last girlfriend loved to cuddle but nothing else. (very frustrating), so I tweaked this a little, and would enter a full 3 hour trance, and at the deepest level I would project sexual desire as an emotion into her, also feeling waves of pleasure as though from her perspective as if I WAS her. She would ALWAYS wake up, and we would ALWAYS make love after that. That to me is enough real world evidence I was really doing something.


Perhaps its a little unethical... haha I don't know. But I have found it very useful


Ian
QUOTE(mwight @ Feb 29 2008, 04:12 PM) *

It isn't something really I would want to do constantly, it is a huge drain on me on all levels.

Jeez, I'm not surprised! I'm really impressed that you have enough focus to do this, but also quite concerned about what the effects on you may be. I imagine it would really fuck me up.
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Also as to the sexual part, my last girlfriend loved to cuddle but nothing else. (very frustrating), so I tweaked this a little, and would enter a full 3 hour trance, and at the deepest level I would project sexual desire as an emotion into her, also feeling waves of pleasure as though from her perspective as if I WAS her. She would ALWAYS wake up, and we would ALWAYS make love after that. That to me is enough real world evidence I was really doing something.
Perhaps its a little unethical... haha I don't know. But I have found it very useful

Perhaps? biggrin.gif
Optionsman
QUOTE(Ian @ Mar 3 2008, 09:40 AM) *

Jeez, I'm not surprised! I'm really impressed that you have enough focus to do this, but also quite concerned about what the effects on you may be. I imagine it would really fuck me up.

Perhaps? biggrin.gif

...and would enter a full 3 hour trance, and at the deepest level I would project sexual desire as an emotion into her, also feeling waves of pleasure as though from her perspective as if I WAS her. She would ALWAYS wake up, and we would ALWAYS make love after that. That to me is enough real world evidence I was really doing something.


What I don't understand, how you have the time for a three hour trance? Wow! No disrespect intended. Also, can you teach this; what you do exactly to "project" this sexual energy into your girlfriend? What is your process while in the trance? Obviously you have developed a way to really focus on something very specifically...which I understand. That is necessary in any meditation, even if the focus is on simply being empty of thought. Please share your process and what you do- think to focus your thoughts- energy for creating sexual desire in someone else.
mwight
QUOTE(Optionsman @ Mar 3 2008, 06:15 PM) *


What I don't understand, how you have the time for a three hour trance? Wow! No disrespect intended. Also, can you teach this; what you do exactly to "project" this sexual energy into your girlfriend? What is your process while in the trance? Obviously you have developed a way to really focus on something very specifically...which I understand. That is necessary in any meditation, even if the focus is on simply being empty of thought. Please share your process and what you do- think to focus your thoughts- energy for creating sexual desire in someone else.


Well I sometimes substitute trance for sleep, with no ill effects. Sometimes I will meditate for 5 hours per night and then go to bed to sleep 3-4 more hours. Trance is simply learning to slow your metabolism down, and enter a deep kind of torpor, almost like hibernation. Your body is asleep but your mind is fully awake.

Sometimes I use Centerpointe's first level CD to help achieve a deep trance.

I highly recommend you read some of robert bruce's work.
http://www.astraldynamics.com/download/NEW-V2.pdf

New Energy Ways is a good primer.


If your trance is deep enough you can feel the flows of energy inside your own body and inside of others also, it is all related to how deep you can go.

If you focus on intense sexual desire and pleasure your chi will take on those characteristics. You can then use chi like an appendage it will follow your will like an extension of your physical body if your trance is deep enough.

You can then attach this appendage to the nerve center(s) you wish to stimulate, and pump your chi (which carries your emotion and intention) along these never centers as the flow up the spine and into the brain.

Some things to keep in mind is to forget about your perspective and focus on the other person, what it would feel like for them and not you. You want to forget about your own existence as much as possible, and drift off into a deep trance.


Also I believe this can be modified for pain, and blockages for healing. I use this same technique on myself when I have pain or headaches or sickness. I don't really get sick anymore, I actively fight it off with this type of qigong.





Optionsman
Thanks for the very thorough explanation! I certainly relate to “deep trance”. Although I am, relative to you, somewhat new this whole thing, I have enjoyed a number of very deep trances, out of body experiences but usually lasting in the 1.5 hour range. That is the reason I said, How has time for a three hour trance because for me that 1.5 is quite a commitment. But if the trance is giving you the benefits of sleep and the intended benefits of the trance itself then you are “’killing’ the preverbal ‘two birds with one stone’”.
I too have used (and still do) Centerpoint’s Holosync and appreciate the benefits. The biggest problem is one hour of “rain” everyday. The thing I have found (and would HIGHLY recommend to everyone I know) that will really blow you away is Kip Mauzy (New Zealand) http://www.bliss-music.com/thecalling.htm . I have eight of Kip’s meditation Bliss Music CD’s, all incredible in their own right, but “The Calling” takes it to a whole new level. The trance is so deep that often I don’t want to come back. The negative effects however(and here is the real sexual rub for me) when I go that deep, I seem to totally disconnect (for lack of a better description) all but my crown and third eye and heart chakra’s. I basically loose all desire for sex for weeks, sometimes months at a time. Really scary for me because I freaking LOVE sex!
I have been in a wonderful marriage to a truly incredible woman for over 32 years. My curiosity (and the reason I joined this site by the way) has been about learning to use the power of focusing qi energy for a closer and more sexually fulfilling relationship with my wife, By most standards that relationship is already a 10 out 10). But when you have been having great sex with the same person for 35 years, unless you go Spiritual, Tantric, etc, there are few places you can go to take it to the next level- to take it from great to amazing.
Also, she doesn’t get THIS whole thing. She has benefited when I have performed Qi Gong healing on her a few times. Meditation and related things are foreign and uninteresting to her. This is truly the only place in which we are completely incompatible. Couple that with the fact that the stress of many years has greatly, negatively affected her sex drive. I am looking for new way to amp it up. All of this would be quite easy if she had a desire to delve into Tantric Sex and earnestly explore what it would mean for us to exchange qi and sexual energy from 14 perfectly combined chakras.
So, full circle here. The how-to of focusing sexual energy into your girlfriend as you do, or as the few who can cause orgasm in a woman by simply directing qi into her is amazing. I REALLY want to learn how to do that. I will go check out Robert Bruces book as well. Anything you learn. Please share
mwight
QUOTE(Optionsman @ Mar 5 2008, 11:32 AM) *

Thanks for the very thorough explanation! I certainly relate to “deep trance”. Although I am, relative to you, somewhat new this whole thing, I have enjoyed a number of very deep trances, out of body experiences but usually lasting in the 1.5 hour range. That is the reason I said, How has time for a three hour trance because for me that 1.5 is quite a commitment. But if the trance is giving you the benefits of sleep and the intended benefits of the trance itself then you are “’killing’ the preverbal ‘two birds with one stone’”.
I too have used (and still do) Centerpoint’s Holosync and appreciate the benefits. The biggest problem is one hour of “rain” everyday. The thing I have found (and would HIGHLY recommend to everyone I know) that will really blow you away is Kip Mauzy (New Zealand) http://www.bliss-music.com/thecalling.htm . I have eight of Kip’s meditation Bliss Music CD’s, all incredible in their own right, but “The Calling” takes it to a whole new level. The trance is so deep that often I don’t want to come back. The negative effects however(and here is the real sexual rub for me) when I go that deep, I seem to totally disconnect (for lack of a better description) all but my crown and third eye and heart chakra’s. I basically loose all desire for sex for weeks, sometimes months at a time. Really scary for me because I freaking LOVE sex!
I have been in a wonderful marriage to a truly incredible woman for over 32 years. My curiosity (and the reason I joined this site by the way) has been about learning to use the power of focusing qi energy for a closer and more sexually fulfilling relationship with my wife, By most standards that relationship is already a 10 out 10). But when you have been having great sex with the same person for 35 years, unless you go Spiritual, Tantric, etc, there are few places you can go to take it to the next level- to take it from great to amazing.
Also, she doesn’t get THIS whole thing. She has benefited when I have performed Qi Gong healing on her a few times. Meditation and related things are foreign and uninteresting to her. This is truly the only place in which we are completely incompatible. Couple that with the fact that the stress of many years has greatly, negatively affected her sex drive. I am looking for new way to amp it up. All of this would be quite easy if she had a desire to delve into Tantric Sex and earnestly explore what it would mean for us to exchange qi and sexual energy from 14 perfectly combined chakras.
So, full circle here. The how-to of focusing sexual energy into your girlfriend as you do, or as the few who can cause orgasm in a woman by simply directing qi into her is amazing. I REALLY want to learn how to do that. I will go check out Robert Bruces book as well. Anything you learn. Please share


great I hope my insight helps someone biggrin.gif

I also hope I didn't come off too much as bragging, this skill IS NOT hard to master. Anyone could do it.


Optionsman
Yes, very helpful! And, thanks again. Also, I am quite enjoying reading the Robert Bruce material. It may have already provided some insight as the disconnect I was getting with my lower chakras.
Smile
maybe this will help you:
http://www.meditationexpert.com/blog/samad...le-about-tantra
Optionsman
QUOTE(Smile @ Mar 8 2008, 09:01 PM) *



Thank You! Very helpful and interesting informaion.
vortex
Orgasm from "dancing Palm?"

Is that what they're calling it these days? Well, I guess it does sound more spiritual than "spanking the monkey" or "choking the chicken?" biggrin.gif
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